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Dimk
Well, it is still down here in S. Europe;
today I haven't been able to access it at all.
No news in the LR blog. Anyway, we just wait.

dinos1
About the original topic, Now I strongly believe LR security is not as good as other processors like paypal or alertpay. It just creates panic among members who kept huge funds in it. They should be little responsible to save their customers' money.
Well, I have read about Pay Pal accounts getting hacked, but I haven't read about Liberty Reserve accounts getting hacked... The only problem with Liberty Reserve accounts was phishing which is different to hacking of course.. I haven't read about any problems on Alert Pay either..

But regarding Liberty Reserve, is it still possible that all those antihacking scripts used there may be causing issues like the site being down now and then?

dinos1
Well, it is still down here in S. Europe;
today I haven't been able to access it at all.
No news in the LR blog. Anyway, we just wait.
I am in Southern Europe too, which country are you at if I may ask? It was up a little ago and then went down again... Not sure what is going on with it today, several worrysome activities on Liberty Reserve and I am afraid that the value of Liberty Reserve funds will start collapsing by tomorrow, before we even have the chance to get rid of our Liberty Reserve funds.. :(

mamabear
I am in the United States - East Coast - I'm down -- haven't been able to log on pretty much all day.

internet
I just wonder what kind of security have been applied to LR website but whatever it is i think is weak because the site keeps going down now and then, i wonder why can't they apply same thing done at AP and PP or PM

jambutty
We have two threads about Liberty Reserve, which are to all intents and purposes discussing the same issue.

They have been merged.

Dimk
At last, news from the LR blog

We are experiencing a sophisticated DDOS attack. We, together with Prolexic, were able to successfully mitigate the attack, although some users might still have problems accessing our web site. We are working hard to make sure everyone will be able to access our web site.

sinip
Yep, and I can finally access LR from here.

Dimk
EDIT: Now it finally works OK here.

lemon_1800
No, I cannot access LR yet.
It shows up the following message :
This Page Cannot Be Displayed

The system cannot communicate with the external server ( libertyreserve.com ). The Internet server may be busy, may be permanently down, or may be unreachable because of network problems.

Please check the spelling of the Internet address entered. If it is correct, try this request later.

If you have questions, or feel this is an error, please contact your corporate network administrator and provide the codes shown below.
Notification codes: (1, GATEWAY_TIMEOUT, libertyreserve.com)

dinos1
No, I cannot access LR yet.
It shows up the following message :
lol... same here... up and down Liberty Reserve goes all the time.. Seems that they solved the problem temporarily, then they were down again.. Anyway, it is a good thing that they made that announcement on their blog though, now we know that there should not be any problem with them running away with our money or something.. Still though, why does Liberty Reserve get all that attention of attackers and people saying things against it? It doesn't happen even with Evo Wallet the security of which is a joke anyway..

lemon_1800
lol... same here... up and down Liberty Reserve goes all the time.. Seems that they solved the problem temporarily, then they were down again.. Anyway, it is a good thing that they made that announcement on their blog though, now we know that there should not be any problem with them running away with our money or something.. Still though, why does Liberty Reserve get all that attention of attackers and people saying things against it? It doesn't happen even with Evo Wallet the security of which is a joke anyway..
For me now it's no matter even if LR does not come back, because I already lost all my LR with WOIP which is not accessible since yesterday. So now my balance is just 0 in LR.
As to your question, why people say evils thing about it. It is just spread by some of their rivals around Internet to make people stop using LR. Because until LR is out there, there is no chance for other processors like PM or Evo or Ecu to grow.

sinip
WOIP is accessible via https:// protocol. I logged in an hour ago and all was ok with my account.

lemon_1800
WOIP is accessible via https:// protocol. I logged in an hour ago and all was ok with my account.
Oh god! Thanks a lot. Just I heaved a sigh of relief. I too can access it now using "https://"

Even LR is accessible now. I can login into my account and navigate around the website. That's great news. Everything is normal now.

haclong932
I can not access this site ,libertyreserve day there are serious problems. Do not know when, it is new and running normally

starapple
Sigh, LR is down again... since last night for me. I hope that hyips will still pay when it resumed because some would take an advantage.

LR being online seems unstable.. always having attacks or errors. No wonder why Paypal is still the safest and trusted.. well, at least for me.

haclong932
News from libertyreserve
Possible outages in some areas.
We are experiencing a sophisticated DDOS attack. We, together with Prolexic, were able to successfully mitigate the attack, although some users might still have problems accessing our web site. We are working hard to make sure everyone will be able to access our web site.

Thank you for your support.

tohawk
Sigh, LR is down again... since last night for me. I hope that hyips will still pay when it resumed because some would take an advantage.

LR being online seems unstable.. always having attacks or errors. No wonder why Paypal is still the safest and trusted.. well, at least for me.

well. i heard from someone that LR down yesterday a whole day. though i only have some bucks on my LR account . i will also worry my account if they keep on down and down again.
maybe LR just owner by some little guys so they don't have manyresource or technology to face the attack...

earntaka
well. i heard from someone that LR down yesterday a whole day. though i only have some bucks on my LR account . i will also worry my account if they keep on down and down again.
maybe LR just owner by some little guys so they don't have manyresource or technology to face the attack...

I am not sure if it really runs by little guys but I will at least tell that this processors is now running by non - professional persons. If they have DDOS protective server, they why they are suffering problem? I think they need to migrate to a new powerful DDOS protective server.

internet
I agree with you earntaka i think their current state that they always get attacked is so annoying, i wonder why can't they change that too because they can see that it is weak or maybe they hate paying high fees for it?? well considering the money they make and how profitable LR is... i think DDos could be avoided big time

lemon_1800
Again LR is down. It was up for a minute last time when I login some hours ago. Anyway, now I'm not worried because I already lost all my money in WOIP. I have nothing left in LR. It's just a lesson for me not to trust any digital currencies like PM or Evo or any HYIP. I'd rather stick to PP or AP which is are a sort of banks.

internet
Woip?? what happened to woip, did you withdraw during LR's offline time or did woip go scam?

lihongyi
How come that you lost all your money in WOIP lemon???Did woip turn scam?I thought it could last for a long time actually...And if it does,it's lucky that I didn't join it.And yes,paypal is still the best e-currencies ever.I don't know much about AP,but what do you think about MB?

lemon_1800
How come that you lost all your money in WOIP lemon???Did woip turn scam?I thought it could last for a long time actually...And if it does,it's lucky that I didn't join it.And yes,paypal is still the best e-currencies ever.I don't know much about AP,but what do you think about MB?
Woip went down as soon as LR also went down. Now both of them are not accessible. I believe LR might come back, but not WOIP. Usually hardly any HYIP comes back once they went down because they know people will withdraw all of their money if they come back so they will be in loss. Instead they will withdraw all money to themselves and be in profit. I'm in terrible loss now.

Francesca
@lemon1800
Please don't panic with woip. You can access through IE and https. I asked withdrawal and have been paid in a half of hour. The problem is LR, while copying woip payment details for the ihavebeenpaid section, the site went down.

lemon_1800
@lemon1800
Please don't panic with woip. You can access through IE and https. I asked withdrawal and have been paid in a half of hour. The problem is LR, while copying woip payment details for the ihavebeenpaid section, the site went down.
Thanks for the assurance. LR is still down in my area, but now I can access woip from https(in IE).

mrnguyen
now a day lr sometime down.but now i connected from it. i think LR very bad perhaps i should use pp

tohawk
now a day lr sometime down.but now i connected from it. i think LR very bad perhaps i should use pp

well. we still can't call it's bad though it have down for several times.

the exchange rate of LR to other currency is still high now.
wish they will never down again. or i will withdraw all my amount out for safty. though i only have little amount on LR :D

lemon_1800
Guys, I wonder how you are able to access it. It's still down in my area. Even I tried proxy, but it's of no use.
I checked its status in www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
Here also it says LR is down.
It's not just you! libertyreserve.com looks down from here.

sinip
I've just successfully logged in to my LR account.

dinos1
Guys, I wonder how you are able to access it. It's still down in my area. Even I tried proxy, but it's of no use.
I checked its status in www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
Here also it says LR is down.
Never heard of that website to be honest... But Liberty Reserve is currently inaccessible for me too... :(

Does anyone know of any reliable exchanger that would convert Liberty Reserve funds to Alert Pay funds, being approved by Alert Pay of course? If there is actually such an exchanger, what would the exchange rate be? It goes without saying of course that I am getting rid of my Liberty Reserve funds once I am able to access my account..

dinos1
well. we still can't call it's bad though it have down for several times.

the exchange rate of LR to other currency is still high now.
wish they will never down again. or i will withdraw all my amount out for safty. though i only have little amount on LR :D
Not really, I had heard that the Liberty Reserve funds had been devalued to 0.98 PP even before the DDoS attack on them yesterday.. I am afraid that once they come back online again, there may be an even bigger decrease in that exchange rate.. :(

bluestone
I managed to login to Liberty Reserve and check my account moments ago.
My account is intact.

Not really, I had heard that the Liberty Reserve funds had been devalued to 0.98 PP even before the DDoS attack on them yesterday.. I am afraid that once they come back online again, there may be an even bigger decrease in that exchange rate.. :(
Gee, this is bad news. Anyway, the exchange rate may change over time; for the better, I hope.

lemon_1800
I can't access LR till now since morning. It seems it's up in some areas and down in some areas. Anyway, I have a hope it will come back.
@francesca,
I can only access only home page of WOIP, I'm not able to login. Anyway, let's hope soon WOIP and LR will come back normally.

thinkpink
It's easter time for hackers too I think..That's why Liberty is down. Better so than having troubles. Sooner or later they'll be back, don't panic.. :angel:

dinos1
I can't access LR till now since morning. It seems it's up in some areas and down in some areas. Anyway, I have a hope it will come back.
@francesca,
I can only access only home page of WOIP, I'm not able to login. Anyway, let's hope soon WOIP and LR will come back normally.
Yeah, indeed... I read their announcement once more, it is obvious that the DdoS attack on them is focused in specific areas then..

Possible outages in some areas.
We are experiencing a sophisticated DDOS attack. We, together with Prolexic, were able to successfully mitigate the attack, although some users might still have problems accessing our web site. We are working hard to make sure everyone will be able to access our web site.

Thank you for your support.

bluestone, where are you from if I may ask? The website seems to be down at Europe and India since we can't access it from there...

sinip
Not in this damned part of Europe at least. :) LR is fully accessible and operational.

starapple
Not in this damned part of Europe at least. :) LR is fully accessible and operational.

That's cool.. In my country, I couldn't access LR since yesterday afternoon.. around 3pm..

Hope it will be back soon because I have pending payments.

lihongyi
It's back already,glad to see that.
I have a little problem,the liberty reserve is having so many problems recently,would its value decrease?If yes,then it's not a good news for someone like me who like to do exchange.

maxcool
when i try to log my brownser gives me a warning that the security certificate its not valid... same thing with ie and mozilla

PALSATWA
still problem here..hope back soon.
i keep many in LR

starapple
It's back already? Good for you.. Lr is still down for me! Grr. I need it now and it's gone. I wish they can become like Paypal when it comes to being strong against attacks.

Secure Connection Failed

libertyreserve.com uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is only valid for *.libertyreserve.com

(Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)

* This could be a problem with the server's configuration, or it could be someone trying to impersonate the server.

* If you have connected to this server successfully in the past, the error may be temporary, and you can try again later

Or you can add an exception…

This is the error I am facing.

maxcool
i have the same message... click in the
The certificate is only valid for *.libertyreserve.com <---click the blue text in your browser
and you would be able to login

maxcool
i have compared the web addresses and the diference is the three W (www.)
when the address does not have the www the browser blocks the webpage

Francesca
I just opened and closed LR. Proof is that I posted in ihavebeenpaid section in which I rarely post since there are so many forum's members who do carefully this job. I couldn't access to LR for many hours but at last I entered through google.com, typed libertyreserve and then login.

PALSATWA
i try to make deposit from b4u24.com to my LR and it's work
but if i open www.libertyreserve.com there is still not respond
it's very curious

lemon_1800
Guys I got a trick how to login into LR. If you just type www.libertyreserve.com , it will not open. But you can access it if you put /en at the end.

https://www.libertyreserve.com/en

sinip
i try to make deposit from b4u24.com to my LR and it's work
but if i open www.libertyreserve.com there is still not respond
it's very curious

That happens because LR is accessible from the country where b4u24 site is located while LR is still inaccessible from your country/location.

dinos1
Alright, good news with Liberty Reserve.. I just logged in there too and since it is also working for lemon at India, I guess that they have solved the problem, or at least its bigger part.. for now.. :p

Hopefully they will not have such problems again, though I can't wait to find out what will happen with its exchange rate to other payment processors..

earntaka
Alright, good news with Liberty Reserve.. I just logged in there too and since it is also working for lemon at India, I guess that they have solved the problem, or at least its bigger part.. for now.. :p

Hopefully they will not have such problems again, though I can't wait to find out what will happen with its exchange rate to other payment processors..

I tried to login there again before some time and I was succeed this time. It is nice that they succeed to come back very quickly. Now I can invest some money in cyclers and hyips.

jambutty
Well London Gold Exchange has dropped their fee back to 5% from 10% a while back.

When I try to access LR at https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/customer/login2/index.aspx I get the “The page cannot be displayed” notice.

But if I click on Refresh, the site comes up and I can get in without a problem.

jmjjmjmos
i think the login section have problem. i cant login. does any body have this problem?

Dimk
As you can see from this thread and the news in the LR blog, depending on the location, some users might be unable to access the site.
It works OK here, for most of the day.

lemon_1800
Friends, now LR is totally back in my area. Even I can access with the usual link "http://www.libertyreserve.com". I don't need to add /en now.

bluestone
Yeah, indeed... I read their announcement once more, it is obvious that the DdoS attack on them is focused in specific areas then..
.. .. .. ..... ... ... .

bluestone, where are you from if I may ask? The website seems to be down at Europe and India since we can't access it from there...
@dinos1.
I am located at Penang, Malaysia.
Yesterday, I succeeded in accessing login to my LR account.
Moments ago, I managed to do so again.

Guys I got a trick how to login into LR. If you just type www.libertyreserve.com , it will not open. But you can access it if you put /en at the end.

https://www.libertyreserve.com/en
Lemon is right.
My last successful access was by URL:
https://www.libertyreserve.com/EN/

starapple
Well, LR is back for me already. I just checked this morning and was able to log in properly without the loading problem.

dinos1
Well, LR is back for me already. I just checked this morning and was able to log in properly without the loading problem.
Yeah.. Thankfully, it seems that they have fixed the problem now and the website is accessible from everywhere..

Does anyone know if the exchange rate of Liberty Reserve funds has been affected at all by all this mess with it and the log in problems that Liberty Reserve had yesterday?

PALSATWA
still can't access LR..
i try https://www.libertyreserve.com/EN/ too
but nothing happend

internet
Yeah.. Thankfully, it seems that they have fixed the problem now and the website is accessible from everywhere..

Does anyone know if the exchange rate of Liberty Reserve funds has been affected at all by all this mess with it and the log in problems that Liberty Reserve had yesterday?

Well i wonder is they will say anything about the yesterday's downtime, but with the exchange rates i don't think it will be that much affected because people still believe that LR will not scam and they would still sell it at the same rates

Dimk
Does anyone know if the exchange rate of Liberty Reserve funds has been affected at all by all this mess with it and the log in problems that Liberty Reserve had yesterday?

From what I saw in bsrates, the rates of the major exchangers have been slightly affected but now it seems that they're almost back to normal.

dinos1
still can't access LR..
i try https://www.libertyreserve.com/EN/ too
but nothing happend
What country are you from? I just clicked on the link that you posted there and it has opened the liberty reserve website with no problem at all, just a small delay.. Perhaps you may clean up cookies and browser temporary files, then try again and let us know if the problem was solved for you.. Otherwise, just be a little patient a few hours as they may still be solving the issue in your country..

dinos1
From what I saw in bsrates, the rates of the major exchangers have been slightly affected but now it seems that they're almost back to normal.
I am glad, thanks for letting me know :)

So, this means that the "indirect" / "unofficial" Liberty Reserve to Pay Pal exchange rate would be $1.1 - $1.2 Liberty Reserve for $1 Pay Pal?

Also, the Evo Wallet to Liberty Reserve rate is still 0% or did they increase/decrease it?

bluestone
I am glad, thanks for letting me know :)

So, this means that the "indirect" / "unofficial" Liberty Reserve to Pay Pal exchange rate would be $1.1 - $1.2 Liberty Reserve for $1 Pay Pal?

Also, the Evo Wallet to Liberty Reserve rate is still 0% or did they increase/decrease it?

$1.1 - $1.2 Liberty Reserve for $1 PayPal is awful.
I thought the exchange would be within 5% range says $1.05 LR - $1.00 PayPal. Bit, I am not familiar with this issue.

dinos1
$1.1 - $1.2 Liberty Reserve for $1 PayPal is awful.
I thought the exchange would be within 5% range says $1.05 LR - $1.00 PayPal. Bit, I am not familiar with this issue.
Oh I am sorry, I posted it the wrong way, I actually mean the opposite that the normal Pay Pal to Liberty Reserve exchange rate would be between 1.1 and 1.2 Pay Pay $...

Yeah, such a rate as I posted it above would have been awful but thankfully that had never been the case to the extent that I am aware.. The worst rate that I had heard of was $ 0.98 Liberty Reserve for $ 1 Pay Pal..

internet
What country are you from? I just clicked on the link that you posted there and it has opened the liberty reserve website with no problem at all, just a small delay.. Perhaps you may clean up cookies and browser temporary files, then try again and let us know if the problem was solved for you.. Otherwise, just be a little patient a few hours as they may still be solving the issue in your country..

Well it seems like it was not available in certain regions but now i think is available everywhere and they have updated their blog and yeah it was yet another DDos attack, well it seems like Prolexic came handy in helping them migrate the attacks and hopefully they will stay protected for some time now

lihongyi
You are right dinos,the rate is around 1.1~1.2 paypal for 1 liberty reserve,I had a few exchanges with others,but it's a shame that I've never found someone who accepts the rate of 1.2:1,maybe it's because of me,I am not a stern person,so I usually accept lower rate,but my requirement is that it can't be lower than 1.1:1

internet
Well after all it is your money and you have access to all of it, you can always wait or look for better deal rather than always going for small/lower rates, from my understanding you should be getting more of paypal when you exchange for LR, you just have to look for better deals

tohawk
yes. patience can give us unexpected benifits some times. if the rate is not your ideal one. you can wait or even wait till the expected rate comes to you..
but i also paid my paitence to Egold before. when the value of eglod has down and i realized that someday after. i can't accept the rate down to this hell so i just forget it and wish they can increase up someday. but till now they still yet to back to normal..sigh~~

earntaka
Yesterday LR was okay for some time. I succeed to access my account. But today it is again not loading in my PC and I am much annoyed on liberty reserve. Anybody also face the same problem? Why they are not changing server?

internet
Well i can access it now and i don't think is the serve problem which they have at the moment, is just the DDos attacks which i don't know for how long will they last because as of now it seems like they come almost every week

jmjjmjmos
i think libertyreserve have problem again. i cant login. when i click on login botton new page dont open for me.

mamabear
LR back and is working fine for me now. It came back yesterday afternoon but I was still having trouble. Today, though, no problem. Works normal.

haclong932
I can access this site, and process invest normal , good day.Expect that LR will not have problems anymore

brutal
i'm glad this site back again because some rumors say that this site will not back because the problem

dinos1
Well it seems like it was not available in certain regions but now i think is available everywhere and they have updated their blog and yeah it was yet another DDos attack, well it seems like Prolexic came handy in helping them migrate the attacks and hopefully they will stay protected for some time now
There hasn't been any new announcement on their blog about a potential new DDoS attack on them, the only posting there was the one of 2 days ago when the site was inaccessible everywhere... Not sure what the case would be in specific areas now but I guess that they may still be recovering from the initial attack..

dinos1
You are right dinos,the rate is around 1.1~1.2 paypal for 1 liberty reserve,I had a few exchanges with others,but it's a shame that I've never found someone who accepts the rate of 1.2:1,maybe it's because of me,I am not a stern person,so I usually accept lower rate,but my requirement is that it can't be lower than 1.1:1
Yeah, I wouldn't accept less that that either... It is obvious that right now, Liberty Reserve funds cannot cost less than pay pal funds as there is not any available method of funding your Liberty Reserve account given that the debit card etc have not been introduced yet.. So, it is harder to fund your Liberty Reserve account and that alone would justify a higher price for the Liberty Reserve funds..

bdsurf
Well, I just find that liberty reserve security check image while login is not working. Today I mistakenly write wrods which was different than the captcha words. But it logged me in my account. I also checked it several times after this but the result is same.

dinos1
Well, I just find that liberty reserve security check image while login is not working. Today I mistakenly write wrods which was different than the captcha words. But it logged me in my account. I also checked it several times after this but the result is same.
Wow, that would suck... I am expecting a spam attack on them in such a case and a bot would have easily caused problems to the website.. Are you sure that the captcha which you added was wrong? Perhaps there was an "i" looking like a "j" or something?..

Anyway, if you are sure that it is not working, I would suggest that you send an email to their support with details.. That would have been on the benefit for all of us with accounts there if they fixed it fast..

sinip
Well, I just find that liberty reserve security check image while login is not working. Today I mistakenly write wrods which was different than the captcha words. But it logged me in my account. I also checked it several times after this but the result is same.

It does work here. I made a deliberate error and got this:

Invalid turing code entered. Please click "Refresh" button on your browser to update image and try again.

tohawk
Well, I just find that liberty reserve security check image while login is not working. Today I mistakenly write wrods which was different than the captcha words. But it logged me in my account. I also checked it several times after this but the result is same.

can we also log into our account under this case...lol~`
so have you ever try to type your password wrongly to check whether in this case you can also login to your account..if this will aslo happen. then all members account will be hell risky..
:)

jambutty
can we also log into our account under this case...lol~`
so have you ever try to type your password wrongly to check whether in this case you can also login to your account..if this will aslo happen. then all members account will be hell risky..
:)
Do you mean the Turing number on the logging in page?

This morning at about 10:00am BST I was able to log in OK. But now at 12:10PM BST it is taking forever to log in until eventually I get “The page cannot be displayed” notice.

It looks like in spite of their best efforts a new DDoS attack is disrupting things.

When I can get to the logging in page at https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/customer/login2/index.aspx the little closed padlock is not displayed.

Be careful!

lemon_1800
@Jambutty,
i don't know what is padlock, but LR website is working fine here. I can access and navigate around the website without any problem. Maybe the problem is again in some areas.

sinip
Looks like, I took me several attempts to log-in to LR because the page was not loading, but I managed to get in after a while.

Dimk
The https works OK here and the padlock is displayed;
some times it is a bit slow in loading though.
Anyway, perhaps LR site is not 100% functional in all areas.

jambutty
@Jambutty,
i don't know what is padlock, but LR website is working fine here. I can access and navigate around the website without any problem. Maybe the problem is again in some areas.
When you go to a web site logging in page that uses https your browser should display a small gold coloured closed padlock, usually at the bottom of the browser window.

If it does not display the padlock then be wary. But the lack of a displayed padlock is only an INDICATION THAT IT MIGHT BE SUSPECT.

However I have finally managed to get into LR and there was no padlock on the logging in page but it was displayed once I logged in and my account was intact.

So maybe LR doesn’t attach quite so much importance to the padlock as other sites do.

sinip
I do all of my logins to LR with https:// from the very beginning, so padlock and yellow background in the URL field are present from the beginning.

lemon_1800
LR is down now in my area. I'm not able to access it now. That is not really a good work by LR. They should have taken all security measures to protect from attacks.

bluestone
Yesterday, I had trouble accessing the site. It was taking a long long time to load and I gave up.

Moments ago I managed to access LR site and login to my account.

amely
I has the same problems 2 days ago....often LR is down for maintenace or other...I think Ddos attack in this time for easter holidays....be careful on your account. To change money I use a different account (not the same that I use to invest in hyip) . I do not leave a lot of money, when I have, in this public account

thinkpink
yesterday in tha aftrenoon LR went back to normal working, and could check my acount and move some money with no problems, after many hours of problems.
They are like springtime: just wait and will come back, sooner or later, with no panic needed. :beer:

bdsurf
yesterday in tha aftrenoon LR went back to normal working, and could check my acount and move some money with no problems, after many hours of problems.
They are like springtime: just wait and will come back, sooner or later, with no panic needed. :beer:

Well, I can access it for the last two days without any problem. The only bad side is they yet not solve their captcha problem. If they do not correct it, many people will try to create multiple account by using bots and that will create a pressure on their server.

sinip
So you claim that you can login to LR without entering correct turing number? That is strange because I tried it here and I can't enter like that.

bluestone
Well, I can access it for the last two days without any problem. The only bad side is they yet not solve their captcha problem. If they do not correct it, many people will try to create multiple account by using bots and that will create a pressure on their server.

@bdsurf
What are bots?

lemon_1800
@bdsurf
What are bots?
As far as I know, bots are one script which will automatically do many things that are very similar, for e.g. using that script you can create 100 same threads all around the forum in just one second. Usually this script is used by spammers or hackers. To protect from these hackers, such captcha code is introduced.

bluestone
As far as I know, bots are one script which will automatically do many things that are very similar, for e.g. using that script you can create 100 same threads all around the forum in just one second. Usually this script is used by spammers or hackers. To protect from these hackers, such captcha code is introduced.

Thank you for your explanation, Lemon.

sinip
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_bot

PALSATWA
lr now up for me after yesterday i can't access LR

dinos1
What is going with Liberty Reserve again? It sucks how many times that payment processor is down... OK with us that only want to check it and use the money when we want to invest, but some of its members may have some urgent payments to make or something.. I don't know, but if this persists for long, perhaps the merchants that cooperate with Liberty Reserve will start shifting towards other payment processors..

sinip
Nothing is going on with LR here. It opens blazing fast.

wasi90lk
What is going with Liberty Reserve again? It sucks how many times that payment processor is down... OK with us that only want to check it and use the money when we want to invest, but some of its members may have some urgent payments to make or something.. I don't know, but if this persists for long, perhaps the merchants that cooperate with Liberty Reserve will start shifting towards other payment processors..

the site is back now.

i am wondering, why does liberty reserve go down over and over? it doesn't happen to paypal or alertpay but why it happens to only liberty reserve; don't they have proper ddos protection or what?

dinos1
the site is back now.

i am wondering, why does liberty reserve go down over and over? it doesn't happen to paypal or alertpay but why it happens to only liberty reserve; don't they have proper ddos protection or what?
Well, most likely yeah... They either don't have the funds or the willingness to imporove the security of their website and it gets hit all the time... Pay Pal had invested a lot more in security from the beginning, this is one of the main reasons for their great popularity and also one of the reasons that Liberty Reserve will never go close to it unless it improves its security and support system..

wasi90lk
Well, most likely yeah... They either don't have the funds or the willingness to imporove the security of their website and it gets hit all the time... Pay Pal had invested a lot more in security from the beginning, this is one of the main reasons for their great popularity and also one of the reasons that Liberty Reserve will never go close to it unless it improves its security and support system..

liberty reserve is only good for investment, they don't have any existence in other merchants. i think they have good fund (thousands of people use lr everyday in hyip world) but they certainly need to improve their protection so that the site doesn't go down like this.

jambutty
It would appear that there are two reasons why LR keeps on going down.

Sophisticated and prolonged DDoS attacks and many more members than normal trying to get to their accounts to see if their account is OK. It all amounts to overloading.

I think that it is a bit unfair to criticise LR for not having adequate anti DDoS protection when none of us know diddly squat about what they have.

It is highly irresponsible to suggest that LR does not have the funds or willingness to improve the security of the web site without one single shred of evidence. In the real world that would be known as libel.

But carry on bashing LR if that is your forte and all you will do is damage your own reputation for talking out of the back of your head.

artagnan1978
liberty reserve is only good for investment, they don't have any existence in other merchants. i think they have good fund (thousands of people use lr everyday in hyip world) but they certainly need to improve their protection so that the site doesn't go down like this.

I would not consider LR being good only for investments. I am using LR for receiving money from various sites, mostly from paid to post forums. I like LR despite of the problems they are keep having.

LR is still a reliable payment processor, highly popular and it is easy to exchange the LR funds for Paypal for example.

Dimk
Of course, LR has its flaws and there is always room for improvement but compared to its competitors (in the e-currency field) LR seems to be generally much better.

As it is stated in the LR blog, they have ddos protection by Prolexic, which is considered to be one of the best and most expensive.
Still, facing sophisticated ddos attacks is not easy task and LR has been repeatedly under attack.

wasi90lk
why can't liberty reserve have a system that allows members to withdraw money directly to your bank account or deposit money directly from bank account (much like paypal)?

sinip
Because it takes a LOT of work, efforts and additional staff to implement. Not to mention that PayPal allows only like 50 or so countries in the world to RECEIVE money to account holders.

tohawk
Because it takes a LOT of work, efforts and additional staff to implement. Not to mention that PayPal allows only like 50 or so countries in the world to RECEIVE money to account holders.

so my question is how could guys get some LR at the first when LR at the first to start this business?we can't fund it . the only way is to exchange with others. then also which way did those exchangers get the LR amounts? aha. my question is really a little strange now.
:)

sinip
Nothing strange at all. There are exchanger who can fund your LR account from bank wire or credit card.

lihongyi
Is there any shopping sites in your guys' countries?On the taobao shopping website of China,you could buy LR e-currencies there,it's absolutely legal and free of fee!(This is one of the most important feathers).And just like trading on ebay,it's almost hundred per cent safe.

amely
today I can not access to web site!!! LR is too often down!!! I hope no more Ddos attack

internet
Which region are you at because since 3 days backs the site has been operating very well with no problem at all, maybe is not accessible in certain region but i don't think is DDos at the moment

lemon_1800
I can access LR now and it's working fine here. I'm converting all my PP into LR because my PP is limited. I hope there won't be any problem with LR because otherwise I'll lose all my hard-earned money.

bdsurf
I can access LR now and it's working fine here. I'm converting all my PP into LR because my PP is limited. I hope there won't be any problem with LR because otherwise I'll lose all my hard-earned money.

You did the right work as there are now no meaning to keep money in your limited paypal. But I think you can also put some money in alertpay. LR is going offline often and in that case you can still invest money by alertpay.

lemon_1800
Again LR is down now. I cannot access it from my IP, nor I can access it by using any proxy which shows LR is down in all area now.

wasi90lk
Again LR is down now. I cannot access it from my IP, nor I can access it by using any proxy which shows LR is down in all area now.

i think it's not down but it's loading much slower compared to before.

lemon_1800
i think it's not down but it's loading much slower compared to before.
No, it was down for almost half an hour yesterday and then it came back. I hope it won't happen ever again because every time it's down it creates panic among us.

wasi90lk
No, it was down for almost half an hour yesterday and then it came back. I hope it won't happen ever again because every time it's down it creates panic among us.

liberty reserve has new updated news in the blog regarding the downtime, check here:

http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2009/04/possible-outages-in-some-areas.html

jeFF
liberty reserve has new updated news in the blog regarding the downtime, check here:

http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2009/04/possible-outages-in-some-areas.html

It's not new, check the date of the latest report on their blog.

starapple
I tried to access LR this time and it's loading too slow. I wonder when will LR be stable in being online. lol

internet
Well with this bad people attacking that processor i'm afraid if they don't need tight security for their site then they will always experience things like this and it could be bad if the attackers can know all the tricks used by LR because they might bring the site down because what's happening now shows that something is weak there at LR and most likely the security

tohawk
well . your guys talked about that LR down several times already but seems i'm the lucky one and never meet the down time till now...lol~

since the first time to LR down the exchanger low the rate here and can't accept if they will also low the exchange vlaue about this time...

mamabear
LR pretty much down for me today. However, I was able to check my account and everything okay.

Dimk
Same here, it goes up and down.
Anyway, it will go back to normal.

tohawk
yes. they only down for some while and can back again. it would our hell disastrous if they won't bank anymore.and i just for test and click the link of LR just now but i found it's fine as usual now. does the site back to normal all of yours ?

mamabear
I'm fine now. LR up and running like normal.

brutal
so for now we can do activities and hope LR still stable until long time need to worry missing because it's all began

starapple
yes. they only down for some while and can back again. it would our hell disastrous if they won't bank anymore.and i just for test and click the link of LR just now but i found it's fine as usual now. does the site back to normal all of yours ?

I can access LR now and it's back to normal but this morning till afternoon, it was too slow. I really don't think it's good for us to put a big amount in our LR because it keeps on have a downtime.

bdsurf
I can access LR now and it's back to normal but this morning till afternoon, it was too slow. I really don't think it's good for us to put a big amount in our LR because it keeps on have a downtime.

The first page login quickly but login page take much time to load. I think this time they have problems with ssl. I am really bored with liberty reserve. I forced to invest in cycle2fast by evowallet for their downtime.

amely
I'm not able to access to my account....all slowly....10 minutes ago I can access but SCI does not work!!!! I'm very tired about this kind of working by LR

oluniyiny
why liberty reserve, you want to kill these HYIPS?

lemon_1800
Guys, I can access LR normally now. Maybe it again has come back. I agree for the last few days LR downtime is very worst and in every few hours it is down for some minutes which will affect all HYIPs and create panic among members.

oluniyiny
Thank goodness, i was able to access my account some moment ago

amely
why liberty reserve, you want to kill these HYIPS?


LR is not one hyip!!!!! it's one e-currency !!! now I try 2 minutes ago to invest in one hyip but SCI of LR does not work right!!!! IF we speak about a few $ it's all ok but when you wait a big amount from hyip or you like to invest is very frustrating this payment processor!!!! it's a most popular e-currency and when works fine is good but in the last days ...and in generally very often...they have a lot of problems

mrnguyen
i lost 37$ in my account . i don't know why ? my computer have not viruses . Lr bad security

thinkpink
I had a very strange problem with LR this evening. All fine while logging into my account. But when I tried to deposit in a program, after confirming, it was always unable to redirect to LR's page that couldn't be found. I tried 3 times, then I gave up. Will try tomorrow. Anyone else faced the same problem ? :o

wasi90lk
I had a very strange problem with LR this evening. All fine while logging into my account. But when I tried to deposit in a program, after confirming, it was always unable to redirect to LR's page that couldn't be found. I tried 3 times, then I gave up. Will try tomorrow. Anyone else faced the same problem ? :o

yes it happened to me as well. i think you can refresh the page, that's what i did and it worked. lr is loading kind of slow nowadays.

dinos1
I had a very strange problem with LR this evening. All fine while logging into my account. But when I tried to deposit in a program, after confirming, it was always unable to redirect to LR's page that couldn't be found. I tried 3 times, then I gave up. Will try tomorrow. Anyone else faced the same problem ? :o
Same here... I then tried to log out and log in again but it would not let me log it.. I am really worried about it now.. What if the accusations against them that they are using our money as they want to buy things for themselves were actually true and they have no money available to give us what belongs to us there? And also that "DDoS attack" was just a cheap excuse on their behalf to drop down their website and avoid the withdrawal of funds in LR after the news about them had spread on the internet?..

tohawk
Same here... I then tried to log out and log in again but it would not let me log it.. I am really worried about it now.. What if the accusations against them that they are using our money as they want to buy things for themselves were actually true and they have no money available to give us what belongs to us there? And also that "DDoS attack" was just a cheap excuse on their behalf to drop down their website and avoid the withdrawal of funds in LR after the news about them had spread on the internet?..

really? i'm going to exchange my LR to local cash tomorrow once i received my 3rd payment from goldentalk. if they can't allow us to use the spend feature at all. that would be a hell to accept and i will also worry about their honest at least..oh god bless both LR and we LR members.

lihongyi
Umm...Which method would you use to exchange your LR to local cash tohawk???Is it a Chinese website?I saw one before,it charges no fee,and 1 LR = 6.7 RMB,this is not bad actually,but you could get more if you exchange it to paypal and then withdraw via Xoom service :p :p

thinkpink
I had a very strange problem with LR this evening. All fine while logging into my account. But when I tried to deposit in a program, after confirming, it was always unable to redirect to LR's page that couldn't be found. I tried 3 times, then I gave up. Will try tomorrow. Anyone else faced the same problem ? :o

Today the problem has been fixed and I moved some funds with no problem from LR. Now let's hope LR will work smoothly for many weeks at least :p

mamabear
LR working fine for me today, but I have had problems in the past. Yes, it is frustrating when you're trying to check your account and the site either times out or the connection failed. When that happens, I just keep trying say about every five minutes or so. I think they're overloaded with requests to connect. Also, I never had a problem with my money not being there.

tohawk
Umm...Which method would you use to exchange your LR to local cash tohawk???Is it a Chinese website?I saw one before,it charges no fee,and 1 LR = 6.7 RMB,this is not bad actually,but you could get more if you exchange it to paypal and then withdraw via Xoom service :p :p

no...the exchange rate has down to 6.5CNY now. but the bank exchange rate is 6.8CNY. that is the site named girlexchange. you can have a look around it..

i also ever checked the rate on xoom. firstly we need to pay the exchange fee when LR to PP. then xoom will also charge some fees what i also do not really like. their rate will increase as the transfer amount increased by. it's not a good deal also..

internet
no...the exchange rate has down to 6.5CNY now. but the bank exchange rate is 6.8CNY. that is the site named girlexchange. you can have a look around it..

i also ever checked the rate on xoom. firstly we need to pay the exchange fee when LR to PP. then xoom will also charge some fees what i also do not really like. their rate will increase as the transfer amount increased by. it's not a good deal also..

Exchanging from LR to PP is extra 20% isn't it? then you can have little to worry about when transferring your money from paypal to xoom as the fees might be covered from your earned 20% and even if the fee can be higher it cannot be like when you exchange from paypal directly to bank as it is way too costly than when using xoom and of xoom is much faster than paypal

bluestone
Exchanging from LR to PP is extra 20% isn't it? then you can have little to worry about when transferring your money from paypal to xoom as the fees might be covered from your earned 20% and even if the fee can be higher it cannot be like when you exchange from paypal directly to bank as it is way too costly than when using xoom and of xoom is much faster than paypal

@internet & @tohawk.
Yes. This way to exchange from "LR to PayPal to Xoom to hard currency" sound great if $1 LR = $1.20 PayPay.
Now, I need some advice and guidance.
(1) where do we go to exchange Liberty Reserve to PayPal? And, from PayPal to Xoom?
(2) It is great $1 = $1.20 Paypal. Is there a fee involved here?
(3) And then from PayPal to Xoom, I can't find in Xoom site, information on accepting PayPal currency.
(4) PayPal allows withdrawal of PayPal currency to hard currency to bank account direct. The service fees I read at the site is affordable.

Someone posted a Chinese site accepting Liberty Reserve $ to RMB. Please share with us more details and URL to review.

tohawk
can we exchange 1$ to 1.2$ paypal? i'm afraid the rate should be 1.02 while not 1.2..

i have yet to exchange LR to paypal on any exchange site so i can't recommend one to you.sugggest you to google it around and pick one . but you can transfer money from paypal to local bank account directly on xoom.com.are you also from China? the exchanger site name is girlexchange.cn.good luck.

dinos1
can we exchange 1$ to 1.2$ paypal? i'm afraid the rate should be 1.02 while not 1.2..

i have yet to exchange LR to paypal on any exchange site so i can't recommend one to you.sugggest you to google it around and pick one . but you can transfer money from paypal to local bank account directly on xoom.com.are you also from China? the exchanger site name is girlexchange.cn.good luck.
No, it is actually 1.2 Liberty Reserve for 1 Pay Pal, though this is the most you could potentially get and only if the other person needs the funds on Pay Pal urgently with you being the only available exchanger... The fair exchange rate between Liberty Reserve funds and Pay Pal funds is generally considered to be somewhere around 1.1 Liberty Reserve for 1 Pay Pal..

lemon_1800
Liberty Reserve site is undergoing a system software upgrade today. The process is scheduled to be completed in less than 12 hours.
LR is down now, but I cannot see any such updates in their blog. From where did you get this information?

dinos1
LR is down now, but I cannot see any such updates in their blog. From where did you get this information?
It is up for me and I can log in to my account without any problems... Perhaps it is a country specific problem again?

On another note, even when it loads without any problems, Liberty Reserve is still not loading as fast as it used to.. It now takes about half a minute to load properly when it only needed a couple of seconds before..

shray0686
Hi. Does anyone know why liberty reserve change its system in logging in accounts. I cant access my account. I dont have a username. only acct. no. pls. help. thanks.
When you make a Id on Liberty Reserve then the username is transfered to the mail box of the email address you entered

tohawk
It is up for me and I can log in to my account without any problems... Perhaps it is a country specific problem again?

On another note, even when it loads without any problems, Liberty Reserve is still not loading as fast as it used to.. It now takes about half a minute to load properly when it only needed a couple of seconds before..

did LR has country specific problem for the down? though i heard several times that LR down but till now i have never meet any of their down time. all are fine just like beofre ..

lemon_1800
did LR has country specific problem for the down? though i heard several times that LR down but till now i have never meet any of their down time. all are fine just like beofre ..
I don't think it is a country specification problem because I could not access LR even with proxy server whenever it was down. Actually, it's down only for some minutes say 10 to 15 minutes in every few hours, and then comes back. LR already came back after 5 minutes since I wrote the above post.

internet
I think the downtime happen too often this days like it was before, don't you think there has to be some kind of upgrade in server? and hopefully it won't go down the whole month during that upgrade time

lihongyi
Liberty Reserve is not down at this moment,right?I am thinking that I should exchange it to paypal whenever I have more than ten dollars in it,so that even if LR goes down,I wouldn't lose more than ten dollars.But hey,we need some confidence in it(though the too often server down really feel bad).

tohawk
ah..you still prefer to exchange LR to PP now. then can you tell me if you exchange 10$ LR with somebody . how many PP you will get in your paypal account finally?
plus the exchange rate of 1$ LR to CNY before is up to 6.8 but now it's down to 6.5 or even lower..i also think that's because LR 's often down though i have yet to meet any down time till now.

bdsurf
Manyone is telling that we will get minimum $1.10 paypal or alertpay if we exchange it with other. But can anyone of you tell me about any person or site who will pay us extra 10% for exchanging? I am not finding anyone.

internet
I think you cannot find a site saying they offer EXTRA when exchanging no matter which e-currency thy send you, they are in business and they are looking for profit, you just have to out there are sell your LR at higher price and find someone who needs and LR and sell it to them at extra 20%

starapple
Manyone is telling that we will get minimum $1.10 paypal or alertpay if we exchange it with other. But can anyone of you tell me about any person or site who will pay us extra 10% for exchanging? I am not finding anyone.

Once, I exchanged my LR with DON for like 10 LR, 13 PP or 14PP. lol. Something like that. haha. I was happy! But once too, I exchanged 5 LR for 6 PP.

bdsurf
Once, I exchanged my LR with DON for like 10 LR, 13 PP or 14PP. lol. Something like that. haha. I was happy! But once too, I exchanged 5 LR for 6 PP.

Thanks for the help. It will really necessary for me. I exchanged LR to paypal/alertpay many times and I think the total amount is not less than $50 but never get any extra money.

tohawk
what does DON mean? if so i know that why Lihongyi prefer to exchange his/her LR to paypal firstly then withdraw them now..lol~if the rate is still like this think i wll also exchange my LR to pp firstly later on..good information to hear about ..

lemon_1800
what does DON mean? if so i know that why Lihongyi prefer to exchange his/her LR to paypal firstly then withdraw them now..lol~if the rate is still like this think i wll also exchange my LR to pp firstly later on..good information to hear about ..
But make sure you exchange with only senior and familiar members because otherwise you will have to face chargeback policy and you will lose your hard-earned LR. There are many scammers out there who are willing to give even $15 PP for 10 LR, but after they get LR, they will open a case against you and take away the 15 PP, thus you will lose your LR.

tohawk
well. thanks for your kind tips . so that's really a scared thing if they have our LR and charge back the PP. but i still have no idea about what does DON mean now.? only exchange with senior and familiar members on DON?

amely
Also today problem access!!!! web site slowly and do not works fine!!! please LR when do you think to solve your prolems?????

thinkpink
Working fine in Italy now. Just logged in and moved some funds with no problem.

bluestone
Once, I exchanged my LR with DON for like 10 LR, 13 PP or 14PP. lol. Something like that. haha. I was happy! But once too, I exchanged 5 LR for 6 PP.

@starapple
I don't understand what you mean by "exchanged my LR with DON for like 10 LR, 13 PP or 14PP."

Could you please explain clearer?

I am trying to find out how to exchange my LR $ to PayPal $.

internet
@starapple
I don't understand what you mean by "exchanged my LR with DON for like 10 LR, 13 PP or 14PP."

Could you please explain clearer?

I am trying to find out how to exchange my LR $ to PayPal $.

DON is a well known forum poster and as we all know that when we exchange LR to PP we gain instead of loosing some of our cash when exchanging to other e-currencies

dinos1
did LR has country specific problem for the down? though i heard several times that LR down but till now i have never meet any of their down time. all are fine just like beofre ..
I don't know really if that it technically possible, though they had claimed so the last time they were down, reasoning that downtime of theirs as a DDoS attack... They had said that their website may have been down in *some* areas while it was fully working in others... Who knows? They may have been lying as well.. :p

internet
I also wonder how is that possible because the site is hosted on a single serve and should be accessed by anyone who wants to log into their site, or maybe they temporarily ban IPs from other countries and only allow those from other countries? and why would they do that because we are all same "members" or maybe some members from some other countries do not do business enough like other countries??

alensot
Thanks for the help. It will really necessary for me. I exchanged LR to paypal/alertpay many times and I think the total amount is not less than $50 but never get any extra money.

With whom you exchanged LR with Paypal? was it an independent exchanger or any individual? be careful as Paypal may not like it

amely
I try 2 minutes ago but I'm not able to access....I can do only the first step and after the pass-phrase I do not go on!!!


mistery of web....if I try to access by Woip for example to add funds I'm able to open my account if I try by LR home page I can not!!!! I don not understand :o

Dimk
More or less the same here; LR goes up and down for most of the day but now it seems to be stable.

dinos1
I try 2 minutes ago but I'm not able to access....I can do only the first step and after the pass-phrase I do not go on!!!


mistery of web....if I try to access by Woip for example to add funds I'm able to open my account if I try by LR home page I can not!!!! I don not understand :o
It happened to me too yesterday, I was able to reach the starting page and the log in page, then when I tried to enter the captcha and log in, it stalled for sometime and I had to retry again hours later.. I didn't try to open it with internet explorer though, so I don't know if the browser could have affected it at all..

wasi90lk
It happened to me too yesterday, I was able to reach the starting page and the log in page, then when I tried to enter the captcha and log in, it stalled for sometime and I had to retry again hours later.. I didn't try to open it with internet explorer though, so I don't know if the browser could have affected it at all..

i think you should try firefox, it's faster than internet explorer. it works fine for me with firefox.

bluestone
I have no problem accessing the site and logging in.
I did so an hour ago. And everything seemed fine.
I used Firefox browser.

earntaka
Sometimes LR work nice with opera specially when it is loading slow. I use opera for accessing liberty reserve and other payment processor. Some sites has cache cutter and if you always visit payment processors while visiting other sites with the same browser, there is a chance that your password will be hacked.

lihongyi
If liberty reserve is really down,then no matter which browser you use,it's still the same.But as I noticed,this would be differenent affording to different zone~~~
I need to do an exchange from LR to PP recently,hope Lr's value hasn't decreased :p

dinos1
i think you should try firefox, it's faster than internet explorer. it works fine for me with firefox.
As a matter of fact, the problem was with firefox which is the main browser that I am using anyway.. Sometimes, even firefox does stall though, for example there are times that golden talk forum doesn't load with firefox and loads very fast and with no problems on internet explorer... I don't really know why this happens to be honest, perhaps it could also be some problem with my antivirus software clashing with firefox or something..

dinos1
If liberty reserve is really down,then no matter which browser you use,it's still the same.But as I noticed,this would be differenent affording to different zone~~~
I need to do an exchange from LR to PP recently,hope Lr's value hasn't decreased :p
We all hope that.. lol.. But I don't consider that it has been affected at all during these last problems with accessing Liberty Reserve since it was not affected even after the all day long problem a week ago with the DDoS attack against them... Anyway, though, who makes that Liberty Reserve to Pay Pal rate? It is supposed to be illegal anyway.. :p

maxcool
LR very slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :mad:
it seems they are having a lot of problems to stabilize the site...

lemon_1800
LR very slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :mad:
it seems they are having a lot of problems to stabilize the site...
It is not slow here. Here now it's as normal as it should be. Maybe again it was a short-term problem. These days LR is really problematic and problem occurs at least for few minutes in every few hours.

Edit : It is down now. I'm getting the message below :

The requested URL could not be retrieved
Please double check or try again later.

earntaka
I faced LR downtime at morning today. But it was for very short time, might be for about five minutes. Then I checked it again and find that it is working as normal. I think LR need to change its layout. Its layout is the worst layout among all payment processors.

Dimk
Up and down or very very slow at times, just like yesterday.

haclong932
I can not access LR , It has problem again

lemon_1800
Today it has been down for more than 3 hours. Usually it comes back within 5 or 10 minutes.

betsybee
I have just had access LR and made a spend, it was very fast and many things seemed to be laid out differently.

madeforpeople
hey friend in the morning i was facing the same problem and liberty reserves was also working very slow but now i just checked it i am able to access my account.and i think you should also check your account i think it will be working.

rajfoe
Hi friend i use paypal the most. I too have an LR account. But i personally feel that Paypal is good. What do you have to say friend?

betsybee
Hi friend i use paypal the most. I too have an LR account. But i personally feel that Paypal is good. What do you have to say friend?This thread is for discussing Liberty Reserve and it's many issues only.
There are many threads elsewhere in the forum to discuss other payment options.

bdsurf
Well, LR is now showing 505 gateway timeout error. I am not sure how much error they can show us in future. I hope they will solve the problem quickly. I can't post my recent payment proof for the downtime.

Dimk
News from thr LR blog:

We are proud to announce another wholesaler for Liberty Reserve currency. This trusted and reliable exchanger has proven to offer great service and will offer very competitive rates for both buying and selling your inventory.
Other exchangers, as well as individual users are welcome.

Various updates:

Liberty Reserve Premium service is almost finished. You will see the sign up menu soon.

Liberty Reserve is also about to roll out two new services, that are currently not offered anywhere else.
Our company has been reviewed recently by the largest and most popular newspaper in Central America, La Nacion. In addition to the best company to work for in Costa Rica, Liberty Reserve was acknowledged as one of the leaders of today's electronic currency industry. We will offer scans of the newspaper in PDF format in both Spanish and English (coming later) languages.

tohawk
hey friend in the morning i was facing the same problem and liberty reserves was also working very slow but now i just checked it i am able to access my account.and i think you should also check your account i think it will be working.

yes. i also heard someone found LR is down last earlier morning but i checked it around 3 hours later and then it's back already. maybe LR is down for short maintenance or for upgrade some new data's and features. not only down for attack..lol~

lemon_1800
I have just had access LR and made a spend, it was very fast and many things seemed to be laid out differently.
Yes it is very faster now. It seems LR was in maintenance to upgrade something yesterday and has come back with bang.

indieover
it is quite hard to log in on this site yesterday or for a few days now. cause it takes so much time for the webpage to display on the computer. yes i think that this repair or uprade on their site is causing this huge problem on the speed of the webpage display on my computer.

tohawk
i logged into my LR account several times these days. but never have any problem . maybe the slow speed is by your ISP..if LR is down then we can't open it at all. not only the slow speed of dispalying the interface of Lr.

dinos1
News from thr LR blog:

We are proud to announce another wholesaler for Liberty Reserve currency. This trusted and reliable exchanger has proven to offer great service and will offer very competitive rates for both buying and selling your inventory.
Other exchangers, as well as individual users are welcome.

Various updates:

Liberty Reserve Premium service is almost finished. You will see the sign up menu soon.

Liberty Reserve is also about to roll out two new services, that are currently not offered anywhere else.
Our company has been reviewed recently by the largest and most popular newspaper in Central America, La Nacion. In addition to the best company to work for in Costa Rica, Liberty Reserve was acknowledged as one of the leaders of today's electronic currency industry. We will offer scans of the newspaper in PDF format in both Spanish and English (coming later) languages.
Hmmm, that would be very interesting to check out... I have never heard of that newspaper to be honest and I can't tell if it exists anyway as I have never been to Central America ever so far.. Though, I will look into the matter and if that newspaper actually exists and is as popular as they claim it to be, that should be a good indication that all those accusations of several people who had been saying stuff like that Liberty Reserve has no office etc will collapse like a tower of cards..

dinos1
yes. i also heard someone found LR is down last earlier morning but i checked it around 3 hours later and then it's back already. maybe LR is down for short maintenance or for upgrade some new data's and features. not only down for attack..lol~
It seems that over the past few weeks Liberty Reserve has been having access problems for about the same time every day... Well, that could be an indication that they are having a programmed maintenance every day about that time, it would have helped though if they announced so on their blog or through other means so that people will not keep wondering what happens to them each time they go down..

bluestone
I have no problem accessing Liberty Reserve site and logging in.
I logged in to my account moments ago.
The loading of the site is fast. I am using Firefox browser.

betsybee
Hmmm, that would be very interesting to check out... I have never heard of that newspaper to be honest and I can't tell if it exists anyway as I have never been to Central America ever so far.. Though, I will look into the matter and if that newspaper actually exists and is as popular as they claim it to be, that should be a good indication that all those accusations of several people who had been saying stuff like that Liberty Reserve has no office etc will collapse like a tower of cards..Here is a link to the newspaper: http://www.nacion.com/
It is in Spanish, so have your dictionary handy :)

indieover
yeah i haev noticed it too that the LR has slow downloading of web page. specially on the main page or home page. but after you have log in which may take some time every thing is fast already after logging in. and so i just assumed that they have some problems again with their script or site. anyways, at least we can still log in and get to see our account.

starapple
yeah i haev noticed it too that the LR has slow downloading of web page. specially on the main page or home page. but after you have log in which may take some time every thing is fast already after logging in. and so i just assumed that they have some problems again with their script or site. anyways, at least we can still log in and get to see our account.

Yes, I experience this too.. but after you enter your account information, it already loads normally.

tohawk
so? sounds strange .only slow when login but after you logged in. everything is back to normal..i can't figured that out what's the problem..

dinos1
so? sounds strange .only slow when login but after you logged in. everything is back to normal..i can't figured that out what's the problem..
Yes, it has happened to me as well, I guess it is just the time needed to reach their server or something and from then on it will be loading without any problems... Who knows? It has been happening for sometime though, it is not something new and if we can log in to our accounts without any problem, I guess that it will not consist any substantial problem anyway and we can wait half a minute more, no problem with that..

jambutty
For the last two days I haven’t been able to get to https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/customer/login2/index.aspx my usual logging in URL. However I can sometimes get to http://www.libertyreserve.com/en/ and use the log in link in that, but I don’t get very far.

So all my I have been paid posts are based on the transaction number quoted in the HYIP. But I have no doubt that the actual money is in my account.

bluestone
This is the current information on London Gold Exchange.
The commission for outexchnaging Liberty Reserve $ is 8%

Sell Digital Currency
Current Commission Rates:
Digital Currency Rate
C-GOLD: ---------------------- -7%
Liberty Reserve (EUR): -------- -10%
Liberty Reserve (USD): --------- -8%
Pecunix: ---------------------- -4%
V-Money: -------------------- -100%

Sell Digital Currency to us and receive your funds via:

* International Bank Wire
* Domestic Bank Transfer (UK, Hong Kong)
* Western Union
* MoneyGram
* PayPal

To Sell Digital Currency, you need to have:

* FREE! Digital Currency Account
* FREE! London Gold Exchange Membership. Sign up! »
Find out more about London Gold Exchange Membership Benefits.

earntaka
This is the current information on London Gold Exchange.
The commission for outexchnaging Liberty Reserve $ is 8%

8% fees for exchanging LR is very high. It was lower before I think. Might be the the exchange value increased for the recent problem of LR and if LR continue losing it value, we can only get another valueless e-gold in future.

dinos1
8% fees for exchanging LR is very high. It was lower before I think. Might be the the exchange value increased for the recent problem of LR and if LR continue losing it value, we can only get another valueless e-gold in future.
Exchanging it to what? I am sorry for asking though I am not familiar with the London Exchange terms and aspects of service... Well, the liberty reserve to pay pal and the liberty reserve to evo wallet rates do not seem to have been affected at all so far, so I don't know what is going on there, perhaps it can be a policy change on behalf of London Exchange to increase its profit in case the supply for liberty reserve funds has increased after the issues that Liberty Reserve had been facing over the past few weeks?..

jambutty
Exchanging it to what? I am sorry for asking though I am not familiar with the London Exchange terms and aspects of service... Well, the liberty reserve to pay pal and the liberty reserve to evo wallet rates do not seem to have been affected at all so far, so I don't know what is going on there, perhaps it can be a policy change on behalf of London Exchange to increase its profit in case the supply for liberty reserve funds has increased after the issues that Liberty Reserve had been facing over the past few weeks?..
Go to http://www.londongoldexchange.com/buyecurrency/buysellconvert.asp?t=sell

dinos1
Go to http://www.londongoldexchange.com/buyecurrency/buysellconvert.asp?t=sell
Thanks a lot for the link! I didn't know that there were such possibilities to be honest.. lol..

So, it says:

Current Commission Rates:
Digital Currency Rate
C-GOLD: -7%
Liberty Reserve (EUR): -10%
Liberty Reserve (USD): -8%
Pecunix: -4%
V-Money: -100%

Sell Digital Currency to us and receive your funds via:

* International Bank Wire
* Domestic Bank Transfer (UK, Hong Kong)
* Western Union
* MoneyGram
* PayPal

The fields with bold letters are the ones that interest me the most at the moment.. So, I would like to ask you a couple of questions on this because you seem to know such stuff a lot better than I do:

a. How can London Gold Exchange offer to give you your funds on pay pal when pay pal itself does not allow conversion of its e-currency to and from other e-currencies according to its terms of service? Wouldn't I be risking to have my account limited or frozen under suspicions if I had received the amount from an exchanger that is known to be violating that term?
b. Is London Gold Exchange reliable itself? I mean would they be accurate and reliable regarding them transfetring the money to my pay pal account?
c. Have you or anyone else here used that exchanger yourself to convert Liberty Reserve funds to pay pal funds and if so, have you had any problem with either pay pal or London Gold Exchange while doing so?

Other than the above and provided that the whole exchanging [process would have no problems regarding reliability and violations, are you aware of another reliable exchanger that would potentially be offering better rates for conversion of Liberty Reserve funds to Pay Pal?

jambutty
LGE is reliable or at least it has been for the last few years and I can’t see it not being so in the future.

I don’t know how they get round the PayPal e-currency exchange rule.

I’ve only ever used LGE for E-Gold and LR.

To become a member and use LGE you need to verify your identity with photo ID and proof of residence.

8% for LR is a bit high. It was 5% the other week and a few weeks before that it was 10% and before that 4%.

dinos1
LGE is reliable or at least it has been for the last few years and I can’t see it not being so in the future.

I don’t know how they get round the PayPal e-currency exchange rule.

I’ve only ever used LGE for E-Gold and LR.

To become a member and use LGE you need to verify your identity with photo ID and proof of residence.

8% for LR is a bit high. It was 5% the other week and a few weeks before that it was 10% and before that 4%.
Thanks for all the helpful info, there should have been a reputation points system on golden talk for you.. :p

So, since the rates for Liberty Reserve fluctuate that commonly on London Gold Exchange, I guess that it is once more a matter of timing when you will do the conversion in the most profitable and suitable way... I guess that the rates will go up even more later that Liberty Reserve will introduce the direct funding system though because that should decrease the availability of people willing to exchange funds from pay pal and other payment processors to Liberty Reserve..

Dimk
I guess that the rates will go up even more later that Liberty Reserve will introduce the direct funding system though because that should decrease the availability of people willing to exchange funds from pay pal and other payment processors to Liberty Reserve..

Possibly, things should happen the other way, if the laws of supply and demand are applicable here; since there might be less customers using the exchangers (less demand), then they should lower their fees in order to remain competitive against LR.

dinos1
Possibly, things should happen the other way, if the laws of supply and demand are applicable here; since there might be less customers using the exchangers (less demand), then they should lower their fees in order to remain competitive against LR.
What you say is true, there would have actually been less demand for liberty reserve funds as people would have been able to fund their accounts directly... Though, there would have also been less supply from other payment processors too...

For example, now someone is forced to convert funds from pay pal to liberty reserve. Liberty reserve fund owners know that they can ask for more as it would be difficult for him to find the required funds in other way and thus they are asking for more.

But if pay pal fund owners will not need them any more, they will be offering less to buy the Liberty Reserve funds and definitely less than what they would have paid to add funds to their Liberty Reserve accounts themselves.

I.e. the LR/PP ratio now is 1.1/1 and the fees charged by exchangers are 8% but then it would have been 1/1 or perhaps 0.9/1, so exchangers could have also increased the fees a bit knowing that the liberty reserve fund owners would have had less chances of getting a good deal with pay pal fund owners..

Of course, the use of pay pal here is indicative.. It would be any processor in the same position..

lemon_1800
Guys, I can suggest one good way to exchange your LR to get more profit. You can first exchange your LR for PP with higher rate say $1 LR = $1.20 PP, then exchange your PP(if pp doesn't support your country or charges high fees) with the xoom which charges just 13.99% fee for other than USA members, so still you will get more $7 profit. Have you ever thought about it?

dinos1
Guys, I can suggest one good way to exchange your LR to get more profit. You can first exchange your LR for PP with higher rate say $1 LR = $1.20 PP, then exchange your PP(if pp doesn't support your country or charges high fees) with the xoom which charges just 13.99% fee for other than USA members, so still you will get more $7 profit. Have you ever thought about it?
Why exchange with Xoom when I can withdraw the pay pal funds to my bank account with 0 fees?.. lol :p

Well, the only problem in the above statement would have been the possibility of paypal suspending my account in case they were suspicious that I had been converting their e-currency to and from other e-currecies... If I have the money on pay pal, then I have no problem at all with what to do with them, it would be as if I had them already in my bank account.. :p

But regarding your case that this opportunity is not available, I guess that the way you considered it would have been the best possible..

Dimk
Well, actually in my post about supply and demand I was basically referring to exchanges between hard cash and LR, (since that's only what I'm interested in).

Anyway, I don't know if we should continue the talk about exchanging here, since there is a separate folder about e-currency exchanging in this forum.

lemon_1800
Guys, at this moment, I'm not able to login into LR. Only home page is opening fast, and if I login it's just go on loading, but nothing happening. I thought LR was back normal after seeing the update on the LR blog, but it seems LR is again facing downtime problem. It's not really good for them.

Dimk
Just the usual downtimes, depending on the location; I wasn't able to login some hours ago but now it works. I guess we have to wait until LR completely finishes whatever work it has to do with its website.

dinos1
Just the usual downtimes, depending on the location; I wasn't able to login some hours ago but now it works. I guess we have to wait until LR completely finishes whatever work it has to do with its website.
Yes, I agree with you... Personally, I can log in to my account without any problem at all but I guess that it is again one of the normal downtimes happening in specific areas now and then.. It should not be a general problem with Liberty Reserve though as it is still accessible by you as well..

maxcool
i can login but when i try to access my main account it just dont get in... :mad: i have several hours trying with no results!

gloryb2green
Yeah...

I too, cannot pull up L.R. at all now. Yes, I imagine too, it's the usual "upgrade" (and downtime) for Liberty Reserve customers at the moment.

While I don't question the validity of Liberty Reserve's downtime, in order to upgrade their security etc. for the site, I'm finding it rather annoying.

Their overall downtime, for the several months I've been with them, has been rather high. At the moment, I only have Pay Pal and Alertpay, besides Liberty Reserve. But I think that's about to change. Not because I'm in a state of panic, but I'm in a state of perplexity, as to why a Liberty Reserve customer, should have to wait several hours, to access their account. (and possibly deposit/withdrawal funds)

You would think, that the amount of money an investor has to shell out to various processors/exchangers, in order to get a paycheck, someone could do a better job, to increase the speed of getting paid and/or transferring funds.

Ive heard from several investors/mods from various forums, that it's a good idea to diversify payment processors anyway. So I guess sometime between now, and the next couple days, I should be investigating other payment processors, and start asking questions to members, as to who you would sign up with. I guess I should also ask, if similar problems are observed in other payment precessors as well, as I don't know at the moment.

Again, while their security/service is pretty good, I'm starting to get the impression, that their customers are revolving around Liberty Reserve, instead of Liberty Reserve revolving around it's customers.

p.s. thank God I have a very quick/reliable currency exchanger!!

gloryb2green
Yeah...

I too, cannot pull up L.R. at all now. Yes, I imagine too, it's the usual "upgrade" (and downtime) for Liberty Reserve customers at the moment.

While I don't question the validity of Liberty Reserve's downtime, in order to upgrade their security etc. for the site, I'm finding it rather annoying.

Their overall downtime, for the several months I've been with them, has been rather high. At the moment, I only have Pay Pal and Alertpay, besides Liberty Reserve. But I think that's about to change. Not because I'm in a state of panic, but I'm in a state of perplexity, as to why a Liberty Reserve customer, should have to wait several hours, to access their account. (and possibly deposit/withdrawal funds)

You would think, that the amount of money an investor has to shell out to various processors/exchangers, in order to get a paycheck, someone could do a better job, to increase the speed of getting paid and/or transferring funds.

Ive heard from several investors/mods from various forums, that it's a good idea to diversify payment processors anyway. So I guess sometime between now, and the next couple days, I should be investigating other payment processors, and start asking questions to members, as to who you would sign up with. I guess I should also ask, if similar problems are observed in other payment precessors as well, as I don't know at the moment.

Again, while their security/service is pretty good, I'm starting to get the impression, that their customers are revolving around Liberty Reserve, instead of Liberty Reserve revolving around it's customers.

p.s. thank God I have a very quick/reliable currency exchanger!!

Liberty Reserve back up for me now!!

mohsin
i think its correct because 3 days back i have made a new account on liberty reserve but i found it quite difficult to have an account there.it requires quite much time and also mind.so i left it.

amely
Also today problems with LR access!! since one week every day the same problems, web slowly, no access to account....or access to account and after teh first step I was locked and no more connection!!!! I do not understand if they are working to solve one problem or they are on Ddos attack every day!!! and I do not know where is the card? they promise about the end of february and we are in april...maybe they are working about this project with late?????

bdsurf
Also today problems with LR access!! since one week every day the same problems, web slowly, no access to account....or access to account and after teh first step I was locked and no more connection!!!! I do not understand if they are working to solve one problem or they are on Ddos attack every day!!! and I do not know where is the card? they promise about the end of february and we are in april...maybe they are working about this project with late?????

I think they made a problem while maintaining. They are now facing that problem. I find liberty reserve in good situation today. Though my internet was slow today, it loaded in my browser quickly. But it is often downthese days , might be you visited in that time.

tohawk
well. yes. we are guess that's LR's maintainence time when someone can't login or found it's slow..though i have yet to meet any of LR's down time and slow speed. but think we can try later if we meet this problem and wish LR can slove all the disadvantage sooner.so we can use smoothly as before.

Dimk
Lucky you; today I was not able to work almost at all with LR.

bluestone
I have no problem accessing Liberty Reserve site and logging into my account.

Some members are reporting problem accessing LR site and logging in while some other members reports no problem.

We need some IT savvy members to explain this kind of situation.

lemon_1800
In my place, I can access, login and navigate around the LR website without any problem at this moment.

always
I received wrong email warning from Libery Reserve.

It says that my account is suspended. But my account is good.

Should I report to Liberty Reserve or just skip ? Please any suggests.

internet
I received wrong email warning from Libery Reserve.

It says that my account is suspended. But my account is good.

Should I report to Liberty Reserve or just skip ? Please any suggests.

I think you should just delete that message because even if you report it to LR i think there will be nothing done about it as we all know that Lr isn't doing enough about problems being reported to them and even serious problems like accounts being hacked

oluniyiny
In my place, I can access, login and navigate around the LR website without any problem at this moment.
You might be correct because i was able to do same earlier today but, now the site is not coming up at all. Could some tell LR to explain this incessant outages.

Dimk
It's a a phishing mail; do not click any links there.

btw LR is down again here.

lemon_1800
It's a a phishing mail; do not click any links there.

btw LR is down again here.
It's working fine here now. I just exchanged my PP for LR with one guy smoothly. That guy also from India who has sent me LR without any problem. I also can login and check my balance without any problem. In fact, LR is open at this moment in my browser.

starapple
I think LR went down for a while in some regions because a friend of mine couldn't access it all but I can.. but I remember, the other day, it was me who was in the same situation as him.

Dimk
Well, I 've been trying to increase my deposit in GNI for the last 4 days but the damn LR thing doesn't work fully; even when it is up, I can't access my main account and after login step 3 it goes down.

oluniyiny
Well, I 've been trying to increase my deposit in GNI for the last 4 days but the damn LR thing doesn't work fully; even when it is up, I can't access my main account and after login step 3 it goes down.
Off and on it is. I am just trying to make a deposit now, the browser could not load. What a disappointment.

amely
Off and On aldo for me!!!! It's very frustrating this situation about this e-currency!!! ancd they do not give any reason about that problems!!! sometimes it seems speaking with a secrets organisation!!!!!!

shray0686
You will get your username in your email .Check it out .I also got there only

bdsurf
Connection Interrupted

The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading

It's really annoying when Liberty Reserve continue showing this type of message daily. There are no scheduled time when they will be online. I wonder why they do this. If members can't use their service, then by how they send money using API? They are only seeing their profit from merchants rather than users problems.

sinip
You will get your username in your email .Check it out .I also got there only

What are you talking about???

lemon_1800
Friends, LR is working fine here. I think you can use India proxy ip to access LR now. I'm sure it will work out. Even when I had a LR accessing problem before, I used USA proxy and I could access it.

dinos1
Friends, LR is working fine here. I think you can use India proxy ip to access LR now. I'm sure it will work out. Even when I had a LR accessing problem before, I used USA proxy and I could access it.
That is true, I logged in to my account a while ago to check the payment that I spotted that I had received from the golden talk forum and it opened without any problem while the payment had also been made without the slightest problem.. I don't know if this would be specific in my country and if it would not be able to access it in other countries, but always try deleting your cookies and web history, as well as try open a website with a different browser cause it could help you at times when the problem would be with your browser/ PC and not Liberty Reserve itself..

internet
lemon why are you using proxies when accessing LR because is not the first time i hear you saying you use proxies to access that processor, don't you fear that you might be banned for dong that or do they allow it at LR?

thinkpink
Today in the late aftrenoon C.E.T LR gave me so many problems to login. Finally now is working, just a little bit slower than normal. I noticed that in such cases many times it works better and faster with Google Chrome than with Firefox or Explorer.

Dimk
lemon why are you using proxies when accessing LR because is not the first time i hear you saying you use proxies to access that processor, don't you fear that you might be banned for dong that or do they allow it at LR?

If he has disabled the "IP Security" feature in his LR settings, there wouldn't be any problem with that.

sinip
If he has disabled the "IP Security" feature in his LR settings, there wouldn't be any problem with that.

But there's always a possibility that proxy could record all personal data entered through it. Personally, I'd never use a proxy to access any e-currency account.

Dimk
That's another matter, but indeed it is dangerous to use one of those free proxies and not a paid proxy, from a reputable company, for things like this.

Btw, LR is finally fully operational here; time to do some work at last.

luke1
The LR SCI isn't working. Can't transfer fund to HYIP automatically, and playing Head and Tail game.

haclong932
The LR SCI isn't working. Can't transfer fund to HYIP automatically, and playing Head and Tail game.
Can do in the process of upgrading the SCI does not work, you wait several days for LR can work normally again

lemon_1800
lemon why are you using proxies when accessing LR because is not the first time i hear you saying you use proxies to access that processor, don't you fear that you might be banned for dong that or do they allow it at LR?
I disabled the "ip security" option so there won't be any problem. But as Sinip said since it's a free proxy, it might store all my login data for hacking purpose, so it's better I avoid this in the future.