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archy22
well i am using firefox browser itself .but i really do not know whether this site is authentic or not since i am not able to see the link actuall one in my status bar of firefox browser as you are saying. how should i come to know that this site is really a honest one?

bdsurf
I think instead of using one liberty reserve account, it is better to use more than one account when you have good amount of money in your LR account. I have now good amount of money in my LR. I also have a chance to get a another big amount of money from marketiva. So, I have created a new LR account and send 50% of my money to that account. Well, its sad that I loss 1% as transaction fee.

By the way, it think it will minimize the scamming opportunity. Every password, secret code and transaction pin is different for both 2 accounts. Even if LR stuff hack it, 50% of my money will be safe.

archy22
well bdsurf are you allowed to create more than one unverified LR accounts is it? do they not ban people for that like how paypal does.
well i am not sure about this since i have never heard people opening two lr accounts at the same time from same ip addresses.

sinip
well bdsurf are you allowed to create more than one unverified LR accounts is it? do they not ban people for that like how paypal does.

As of now, LR does not support any verification. That might change in the future, as announced in LR blog, with optional and voluntary verification option, but when exactly is that going to happen is anybody's guess.

archy22
As of now, LR does not support any verification. That might change in the future, as announced in LR blog, with optional and voluntary verification option, but when exactly is that going to happen is anybody's guess.
well is it so? are they planning to give any bonuses for verifying our accounts on that site is it? this kind of offers were given by ecu money long back when they had started newly and asked people to verify their account.

starapple
I think that verification is needed if someone wants to order their debit card that they will be launching one day.. but if you don't want to order, then I guess there's no need to verify your LR account.

sinip
I think that verification is needed if someone wants to order their debit card that they will be launching one day.. but if you don't want to order, then I guess there's no need to verify your LR account.

Exactly right. See also here: http://blog.libertyreserve.com/2009/03/credit-card-processing-and-other.html Unfortunately, LR is a bit behind schedule compared to what was announced there.

bdsurf
well bdsurf are you allowed to create more than one unverified LR accounts is it? do they not ban people for that like how paypal does.
well i am not sure about this since i have never heard people opening two lr accounts at the same time from same ip addresses.

You can create hunders of LR account if you want from the same ip and with the same name. Just different email account is needed. Maximum online business site owners do it. They have a account for their personal use and use other account for business use. Obviously LR doen't make any problem and it is allowed.

jambutty
You can create hunders of LR account if you want from the same ip and with the same name. Just different email account is needed. Maximum online business site owners do it. They have a account for their personal use and use other account for business use. Obviously LR doen't make any problem and it is allowed.
You don’t even need a different email address for each account.

I have 2 accounts in LR and both use the same email address.

bdsurf
You don’t even need a different email address for each account.

I have 2 accounts in LR and both use the same email address.

Oh, I didn't know that. I read in LR that we can create multiple account. I saw in evowallet that we can also create many accounts there but with different email address. So, I matched that with LR. lol.

By the way, I think creating LR with different email address is better as if any email address hacked, we will only face the probability of hacking one LR account.

tohawk
i checked on LR before and got the message that we are allowed to create multiple account on LR under different Email addresses. so if use one email address to create multiple account is allowed then why they stated that on the site..i'm confused now.

jeFF
i checked on LR before and got the message that we are allowed to create multiple account on LR under different Email addresses. so if use one email address to create multiple account is allowed then why they stated that on the site..i'm confused now.
Probably this requirement is made just because of security reason.

rortiz86
i checked on LR before and got the message that we are allowed to create multiple account on LR under different Email addresses. so if use one email address to create multiple account is allowed then why they stated that on the site..i'm confused now.

Probably a mistake or their faqs are not updated. Even I, have 2 LR accounts with different email addresses just to make sure that I am following the rules, though I no longer us the old one as I forgot the password and account number. lol

archy22
i tried to login to my LR account today from a different ip address system, i am getting some message that you are accessing your account with a different ip address. lpease check your email id for the pin before nter the pin only i was able to login. this reminds me of egold payment processor they used to have such feature. anyways it is a good security feature.

bdsurf
i tried to login to my LR account today from a different ip address system, i am getting some message that you are accessing your account with a different ip address. lpease check your email id for the pin before nter the pin only i was able to login. this reminds me of egold payment processor they used to have such feature. anyways it is a good security feature.

Well, no doubt that this feature of LR is good. But e-gold security was much higher. Sometimes LR don't catch ip changing if the first 3 part of the ip is unchanged. But e-gold could catch it even if any digit in the 4 th part of the ip changed. By the way, that is not a big problem.

archy22
Well, no doubt that this feature of LR is good. But e-gold security was much higher. Sometimes LR don't catch ip changing if the first 3 part of the ip is unchanged. But e-gold could catch it even if any digit in the 4 th part of the ip changed. By the way, that is not a big problem.
oh that is really nice of you to give me so many technical deatils of this site and its security system anyways. but e-gold inspite of having so many features has gone down so soon.

jambutty
This thread is about Liberty Reserve and not a comparison with E-Gold.

Please keep it that way.

archy22
oh yah i am sorry for comparing liberty reserve with egold jambutty. i will be careful in following the rules henceforth.
anyways there are many exchangers online now a days who buy liberty reserve and pay in indian currencies some of my friends are selling it at the rate of 1 LR to 51 INR

tohawk
well. there is one option to check the login IP address limitted or not on LR. maybe you've picked that up so you got such reminders from LR when you login with different IP address. i have moved my house 3 times and the IP address also changed 3 times. but LR never showed me any such messages about let me to check my email..lol~

bdsurf
I do not feel any more interest to write that LR is still down in my country for direct access means you will not be able to visit LR by typing:

https://www.libertyreserve.com

Though its possible to visit LR by typing

https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/index.aspx

I think this problem happened only for my country or in few countries as I don't see any complain more. Though I am not facing any problem as I know this, but I am thinking about other people of my country who is newbie in LR or don't know the second URL. They really don't know when they will able to access LR.

What type of problem is this? LR don't know how to solve the index page problem? More than 1 month already passed!

tohawk
you area still have LR login problem till now? here it goes well around 1 month without any problem already. it's not understandable why your area have this problem but other's have not. refer to LR's TOS. they open the service to your contry then means same feature with other countries also.

bdsurf
you area still have LR login problem till now? here it goes well around 1 month without any problem already. it's not understandable why your area have this problem but other's have not. refer to LR's TOS. they open the service to your contry then means same feature with other countries also.

Its not the login problem. Its the old problem where LR homepage do not open directly. I don't face any problem as I know other url to access LR. Though its the problem of others but I think it need to solve. LR wrote about this in their problem that they will be down in some countries for some more days. So, don't want to complain now again.

chardyme
I've experience this as well. I don't directly go to the login page address, instead I go to the main page of liberty reserve and it's doing ok

tohawk
well. since LR announced this out and said this problem can be solved after some more days. you really do not need to complain this and just wait..even you can login it by other address..i always click my bookmarked address on firefox and everything is going well.

chardyme
That's what I did as well to avoid going to the login page directly. Good advise tohawk

sinip
Its not the login problem. Its the old problem where LR homepage do not open directly. I don't face any problem as I know other url to access LR. Though its the problem of others but I think it need to solve. LR wrote about this in their problem that they will be down in some countries for some more days. So, don't want to complain now again.

I think it is your ISP that is causing the problem. Some (usually small) ISPs use cashing proxies to save on bandwidth or to save on quantity of IPs in use, so if there's some old LR page still in cache, from the time when LR had access problem, that might be the reason. Unfortunately, you as end user can only talk to your ISP technical support and ask them to fix the problem, but if it is caused by cashing, most of them will not even acknowledge the use of cashing proxy.

lemon_1800
I do not feel any more interest to write that LR is still down in my country for direct access means you will not be able to visit LR by typing:

https://www.libertyreserve.com

Though its possible to visit LR by typing

https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/index.aspx

I think this problem happened only for my country or in few countries as I don't see any complain more. Though I am not facing any problem as I know this, but I am thinking about other people of my country who is newbie in LR or don't know the second URL. They really don't know when they will able to access LR.

What type of problem is this? LR don't know how to solve the index page problem? More than 1 month already passed!
Friend, it could be either your ISP problem or LR technical problem. Even I had this problem for some days but right now I can access LR with the direct link itself. I suggest you try to access from different computer, and if you face the same problem, that means LR has some technical issues, otherwise it's a problem with your ISP.

tohawk
well. hementioned that's not his own problem and all the country's members have such login problem . even LR also stated there are some problems need to be solve and several countries would have log in problem still but LR also said they will try to solve this problem soon.
:)

archy22
well i too face problems many a times with this liberty reserve site. many of the times they are down or is it because of my ISP problem too? if there are many others who are facing the similar problems like me then surely it is not my problem though.

bdsurf
I think it is your ISP that is causing the problem. Some (usually small) ISPs use cashing proxies to save on bandwidth or to save on quantity of IPs in use, so if there's some old LR page still in cache, from the time when LR had access problem, that might be the reason. Unfortunately, you as end user can only talk to your ISP technical support and ask them to fix the problem, but if it is caused by cashing, most of them will not even acknowledge the use of cashing proxy.

Well. I never imagined that how correct you are. I tried LR from own, my friends and varsity computers. Mine and varsity friends isp is same, its different for my varsity. But I faced problem in all.

But after reading this post I contacted with darksorrow who live in the same city where i live. He confirmed me that he faced this problem before and not now.

So, you are 100% right. Thanks for the helpful post.

archy22
Well. I never imagined that how correct you are. I tried LR from own, my friends and varsity computers. Mine and varsity friends isp is same, its different for my varsity. But I faced problem in all.

But after reading this post I contacted with darksorrow who live in the same city where i live. He confirmed me that he faced this problem before and not now.

So, you are 100% right. Thanks for the helpful post.
well that is really nice to know that finally you were able to find a better solution for this. so it was your ISP problem only is it?
didnt you able to login any time at all, because i am able to login many times, only few times it iwll give me this problems.

nanoextreme
I was thinking that LR value when exchanging with other payment processors,was droped for a little,but I was wrong.
According to "me",LR is still most valued e-currency between all ecurrnecies.
I exchanged 4$ LR to 4.5$ PP before few days,so my claims are over .
And LR is not crashing theese days like usual. Nice...

tohawk
yes. LR is working as normal currently and the value is still high when exchange with other online payment processors. i even heard one guy exchanged his LR ot PP under the rate of 1$ LR to 1.2$PP.. that's really a good rate even myself also intended to exchange now..lol~

archy22
well even i am currently working with LR without any issues. i have faces no serious issues in the past either except for a few phishing emails and some times the site is down and in accessible.

bluestone
@moderator.
There was some discussion about LR exchange rate before.
I suggest we have a thread exclusive to discuss this.
Is it possible to find all previous discussion on this to shift over to new thread?

sinip
@moderator.
There was some discussion about LR exchange rate before.
I suggest we have a thread exclusive to discuss this.
Is it possible to find all previous discussion on this to shift over to new thread?

What do you mean by "discussion about LR exchange rate"?

archy22
i am always exchanging LR to PP through an online exchanger. they are providing me 1 LR= 1.2 PP all the times. there will be certainly a delay of 1 week to 15 days for that person to send me PP manny a times though but even then i can be assured that he is going to pay my money online to my PP account.

bluestone
What do you mean by "discussion about LR exchange rate"?

Well. I am thinking of a thread devoted to conversion of LR $ to other e-currencies or hard currencies.
The ways some forum members do it. and, the prevailing conversion rate or exchange rate.
Of course, I am aware the standard conversion to turn LR $ to hard currency is through LR's recommended e-currency exchangers. I read posts other members had their own ingenious ways or private ways of doing exchanging which get them far better deals than through the e-currency exchangers.

bluestone
i am always exchanging LR to PP through an online exchanger. they are providing me 1 LR= 1.2 PP all the times. there will be certainly a delay of 1 week to 15 days for that person to send me PP manny a times though but even then i can be assured that he is going to pay my money online to my PP account.

@archy22.
I understand PayPal disallows deposit that originates from LR $ or e-currency exchange to PayPal. I read about this in forum posts; no that I know about it personally. Yet, I read a number of times people like yourself exchanging LR $ to PP $. I am just curious what exactly is the situation.
It also seems you consistently get good deal with exchange rate such as 1 LR = 1.2 PP.

tohawk
well. though paypal said exchange with any other ecurrency is against their TOs but there are lots people did this still.
as far as i know. if we do not mention the exchange on the transaction and do not publish our paypal account on the exchange site or exchange threads anywhere. paypal will hard to catch us when we exchange pp with any other online payment processors.good luck.

bluestone
well. though paypal said exchange with any other ecurrency is against their TOs but there are lots people did this still.
as far as i know. if we do not mention the exchange on the transaction and do not publish our paypal account on the exchange site or exchange threads anywhere. paypal will hard to catch us when we exchange pp with any other online payment processors.good luck.

@tohawk.
I see.
Thank you for your information.
archy22 seems to have quite some experience doing that. But, to wait for 1 - 2 weeks to get an exchange transaction (LR to PP) seems far too long.

lemon_1800
@tohawk.
I see.
Thank you for your information.
archy22 seems to have quite some experience doing that. But, to wait for 1 - 2 weeks to get an exchange transaction (LR to PP) seems far too long.
Well, archy22 always do exchange with me, and most of the time I pay them with the rate $1.30 PP for 1 LR, and usually it's more than that, for $11 LR, it's $16 PP, and sometimes for $15 LR, it's 20 PP, so on. The reason why I'm paying with the high rate because I delay by week or 10 days for the reason my paypal account is limited, and my PP is stored in one of my friend's account to whom I can meet only online once in a week or 10 days.

eddielkk
Well, archy22 always do exchange with me, and most of the time I pay them with the rate $1.30 PP for 1 LR, and usually it's more than that, for $11 LR, it's $16 PP, and sometimes for $15 LR, it's 20 PP, so on. The reason why I'm paying with the high rate because I delay by week or 10 days for the reason my paypal account is limited, and my PP is stored in one of my friend's account to whom I can meet only online once in a week or 10 days.

wow! you rates is so wonderful. if you have a need for exchange, please do not hesistate to contact me, i will surely exchange with you, once i have LR in my account. Well, most of my LR is with hyips site now.

bluestone
Well, archy22 always do exchange with me, and most of the time I pay them with the rate $1.30 PP for 1 LR, and usually it's more than that, for $11 LR, it's $16 PP, and sometimes for $15 LR, it's 20 PP, so on. The reason why I'm paying with the high rate because I delay by week or 10 days for the reason my paypal account is limited, and my PP is stored in one of my friend's account to whom I can meet only online once in a week or 10 days.

@lemon.
Nice to know this. I will come to you when I need to out-exchange my LR to PP>

tohawk
Well, archy22 always do exchange with me, and most of the time I pay them with the rate $1.30 PP for 1 LR, and usually it's more than that, for $11 LR, it's $16 PP, and sometimes for $15 LR, it's 20 PP, so on. The reason why I'm paying with the high rate because I delay by week or 10 days for the reason my paypal account is limited, and my PP is stored in one of my friend's account to whom I can meet only online once in a week or 10 days.

so. that's really a nice rate and i even willing to exchange with you now..
:) are you have some alertpay need to exchange into LR also? i will contact with you later if i want to exchange my LR to PP later also.
confirm one more thing is that if we want to exchange with you we need to send the LR to you 10 days before you send us the PP or something?

lemon_1800
so. that's really a nice rate and i even willing to exchange with you now..
:) are you have some alertpay need to exchange into LR also? i will contact with you later if i want to exchange my LR to PP later also.
confirm one more thing is that if we want to exchange with you we need to send the LR to you 10 days before you send us the PP or something?
Friend, no I can't pay alertpay. For paypal, now I have set the minimum of 30 LR for every 40 PP with at least 7 days gap, but maximum 10 days. If you people are interested, you can always PM me.
Well, if you don't have 30, then you can exchange with me 26 PP for 20 LR with at least 7 days gap, maximum 10 days. By any means, I will pay you back within 1 week or 10 days. You can always meet me online in YM in the evening daily.

darksorrow
Friend, no I can't pay alertpay. For paypal, now I have set the minimum of 30 LR for every 40 PP with at least 7 days gap, but maximum 10 days. If you people are interested, you can always PM me.

That's really a nice offer. :thumbsup:

You can be trusted with this since you are on many forums and won't risk your reputation for $30. People will get good benefit from this exchange.

May be me too. :D

bdsurf
Friend, no I can't pay alertpay. For paypal, now I have set the minimum of 30 LR for every 40 PP with at least 7 days gap, but maximum 10 days. If you people are interested, you can always PM me.
Well, if you don't have 30, then you can exchange with me 26 PP for 20 LR with at least 7 days gap, maximum 10 days. By any means, I will pay you back within 1 week or 10 days. You can always meet me online in YM in the evening daily.

Well, lemon, this rate is really cool. if I need to exchange LR any time, i will contact with you. Right now I am giving more importance to keep all my money in LR as i need to invest money in forex and hyips and both ask LR.

lemon_1800
Well, lemon, this rate is really cool. if I need to exchange LR any time, i will contact with you. Right now I am giving more importance to keep all my money in LR as i need to invest money in forex and hyips and both ask LR.
Friend, once we are used to these forex, hyip, betting, casino, gambling, etc., we like to have more and more LR and we will not get any interest to convert it to paypal unless and until we end up losing all LR. Fortunately, I got some local exchangers who deposit directly in my bank(indian rupees) for LR so I have a plan to sell my LR for Indian rupees ever time I earn something from anywhere else. Basically, I like to buy LR for PP for the reason my PP is limited, and I like to have all my funds myself in my LR instead of storing it in someone else' PP account.

eddielkk
If so many members here is interested to exchange money with lemon, i wonder whether lemon have enough funds in PP to do all exchanges, as he set his minimum exhanges on $30 LR. Just 3 person exchanges, he will need to prepare $120 in paypal to members.

lemon_1800
If so many members here is interested to exchange money with lemon, i wonder whether lemon have enough funds in PP to do all exchanges, as he set his minimum exhanges on $30 LR. Just 3 person exchanges, he will need to prepare $120 in paypal to members.
Right now I have around $230 PP stored in 4 different people's account, and I don't take your LR if I feel I can't pay or I don't have enough PP, so it's not a problem. I just exchange only if I can, otherwise I won't. But I'm sure I can exchange around $150 LR every month without no problem, because these days I'm working hard in some sites to earn money which pays via PP and I want to exchange these PP for LR as soon as possible. Moreover, now I'm working on forex, so once I'm used to it, I can convert $30 LR to $60 LR, so paying $40 PP is not a problem to me. Right now I just give away my LR to my friend who is a forex trader and sends me good profit. That's why now I stopped betting and everything.

eddielkk
Right now I have around $230 PP stored in 4 different people's account, and I don't take your LR if I feel I can't pay or I don't have enough PP, so it's not a problem. I just exchange only if I can, otherwise I won't. But I'm sure I can exchange around $150 LR every month without no problem, because these days I'm working hard in some sites to earn money which pays via PP and I want to exchange these PP for LR as soon as possible. Moreover, now I'm working on forex, so once I'm used to it, I can convert $30 LR to $60 LR, so paying $40 PP is not a problem to me.

Well, i am not suspecting you honesity, as i also exchanges money with you before, and i never worry at all, as i know you are a trustworthy man. I am just wondering how you can earn so much of paypal in short time for doing those exchanges. As for me, if i just work for those PTP forum, it won't be earn that much of paypal in short time, i am also keep researching a better way to make fast money. Forex is something new to me i would say.

lemon_1800
Well, i am not suspecting you honesity, as i also exchanges money with you before, and i never worry at all, as i know you are a trustworthy man. I am just wondering how you can earn so much of paypal in short time for doing those exchanges. As for me, if i just work for those PTP forum, it won't be earn that much of paypal in short time, i am also keep researching a better way to make fast money. Forex is something new to me i would say.
Earning Liberty Reserve fast is possible only in forex and gambling, but earning paypal is very easy I think because many fast earners pays via PP (uploading sites particularly). Anyway, even if I don't have enough PP, I can exchange my LR for PP with someone else, and pay back you people your PP at the said time in an extreme case, so I think you don't need to concern.

eddielkk
Earning Liberty Reserve fast is possible only in forex and gambling, but earning paypal is very easy I think because many fast earners pays via PP (uploading sites particularly). Anyway, even if I don't have enough PP, I can exchange my LR for PP with someone else, and pay back you people your PP at the said time in an extreme case, so I think you don't need to concern.

Thanks for letting me knows another good way to earn PP, as i know lot of uploading site before, but i have never seriously workout with them. Since you have proof that earning paypal with uploading site is a fast way to earn, then now i will take moe time on those site then.

I think gambling is not good way to make money, it make lose money too. Anyway, i wish you luck for your gambling site that you works with.

jambutty
This thread has drifted into a discussion on exchanging LR with PP.

Please keep it on topic.

PALSATWA
what a problem with LR?
today i found that my password not work if i go to my LR from www.libertyreserve.com but if i want to join in HYIP program Like CGI or another
from sci.libertyreserve.com my password is OK.
anybody have same problem with LR?thanks

sinip
Same here??? I tried asking for reset code, it arrived to my e-mail but an attempt to actually use it fails as well. So something IS wrong in LR at the moment...

wasi90lk
i thought my lr account is hacked but now i see other members are also having problem.

lemon_1800
Same here. Though my password is correct, I'm not able to login and saying password or login id is invalid. Thankfully I come across this thread, otherwise I would have thought my account got hacked. Now I understand it's just a technical issue in LR website itself which they need to be fixed up soon.

darksorrow
I heard that LR scammed TrainexService.com $47,000. :angry:

I don't do much findings about LR because i don't like this PP. But read at one place that recently they have also been through many suspicious activities. And chance this PP might go scam. :jitters:

Can someone give proper information about these things?

wasi90lk
I heard that LR scammed TrainexService.com $47,000. :angry:

I don't do much findings about LR because i don't like this PP. But read at one place that recently they have also been through many suspicious activities. And chance this PP might go scam. :jitters:

Can someone give proper information about these things?

where did you find the information, can you provide the link?

i think neither pp nor lr will go scam, maybe trainexservice's account got hacked.

bluestone
Same here. Though my password is correct, I'm not able to login and saying password or login id is invalid. Thankfully I come across this thread, otherwise I would have thought my account got hacked. Now I understand it's just a technical issue in LR website itself which they need to be fixed up soon.

I just encountered the same problem moments ago.
Now. What do we do?
Or, just wait?

lemon_1800
I just encountered the same problem moments ago.
Now. What do we do?
Or, just wait?
We have to just wait. I'm not much concern about it because I have just $1 in my LR account.

darksorrow
where did you find the information, can you provide the link?

i think neither pp nor lr will go scam, maybe trainexservice's account got hacked.

Well you can see the information on MHP hyip investors group section on page 9. And the person gave the information did not gave any link. So i can't provide any link for now. :(

lemon_1800
where did you find the information, can you provide the link?

i think neither pp nor lr will go scam, maybe trainexservice's account got hacked.
You can read here with the screenshot proof that trainxservice lost $4700, but I'm not sure if LR scammed him or someone hacked their account.

http://www.exchangemoneyplace.com/liberty-reserve/2728-liberty-reserve-scam-who-next.html

luke1
My LR password is not working too. SCI is working only until 3rd step of log in.
I think it has a technical problem again..

Rockstar12345
Well that is great to hear , i was thinking the same that my account was hacked , hopefully Lr would be able to solve this problem soon.

bluestone
My LR password is not working too. SCI is working only until 3rd step of log in.
I think it has a technical problem again..

Gosh!! Looks like we are going to face another period of LR downtime. This is no good.
OnisGroup is the first to warn members about payment to LR have to be put on hold.

News from OnisGroup.com

May 31 - All pending withdrawals to LibertyReserve system have been set on hold due to technical issue at LibertyReserve system.
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amely
problems also for me!!! account or password incorrect!!! what appends'???????

mamabear
Yeah, I'm having same problem as others. Not being able to log in -- says my account number or password is incorrect. Hope this is fixed soon.

amely
I have checked the LR blog! no news about!!! I do not understand why they have this blog if they do noit write never nothing about tech important problems like this!!!! nobody are able to access! I have try also with en other LR account that I use only to exchange and it's the same

tohawk
yes. i also can't acess it if i have yet to read you guys message i will worry about my LR account. though i only have several bucks on my LR account currently but that's all my hard earning on paid to post forums. maybe they have yet to update this problem and wish they can fix this problem soon.

amely
You can read here with the screenshot proof that trainxservice lost $4700, but I'm not sure if LR scammed him or someone hacked their account.

http://www.exchangemoneyplace.com/liberty-reserve/2728-liberty-reserve-scam-who-next.html


I read ...I'm perplessed!! It would be better if LR will make a payment special insurance to protect accounts .....I think is not impossible..and not very expensive .....maybe one investor can choose how much to assure and how much pay....

jambutty
darksorrow – don’t spread rumours especially one that is over 3 months old.

http://www.trainexservices.com/ has been temporarily disabled.

If you read the thread on TG at http://www.talkgold.com/forum/r187058-.html you will read a lot of posts by dissatisfied customers.

lemon_1800 – as you state, that screenshot at http://www.exchangemoneyplace.com/liberty-reserve/2728-liberty-reserve-scam-who-next.html doesn’t prove anything except that $47,000 was transferred from the TrainEx account to one named Trainex Corp. But it could have been engineered by trainex to steal their own money as an excuse to close up shop.

maxcool
well.. i thought i was hacked also...
too bad that LR is having problems again!! i hope they solve this soon

datawell
well.. i thought i was hacked also...

Same here :D

SCI still works though. I made a test transfer and did work, I also could see that evrything is still there deposit. I wonder when we could login again.

Dimk
The problem still exists and no news in LR blog.

Anyway, we have nothing to do but wait for LR to fix this, hopefully by tomorrow.

Rockstar12345
Well no news in Lr blog means something unexpected happened , maybe someone hacked Lr and reset all the passwords , though i may be wrong as well.

amely
they replay from my ticket writing that they have received my error mail about....but nothing else....it's boring to have LR problems once a week.....but if they reset all password after they sent us new access (my God!!! like Bable tower) or all will be normal?

Dimk
Finally, an update from LR blog, posted minutes ago:


Login difficulties for some users

Dear Friends,

Some of you may experience temporary login difficulties, during first or second stage of login process. This occurrence was traced to our hosting provider and one of their unfinished updates of out bound core routers. Our load balancing server will not allow to make connections if ALL mirrors are not operational. This issue is expected to be resolved within the next two hours.

We apologize for any inconvenience this issue may cuase to some of our clients.

Folks @ Liberty Reserve S.A.


EDIT:
I just managed to log in and all seem to be normal.

PALSATWA
hoho finally they give news for us.
hope not to long,like the last error of LR.sometimes LR need more time,not just 2 hour to solve the problems.

bdsurf
Well, are you facing problem still now? I can login in LR without any problem. I just logged there and find that every thing is okay. I got feared at morning when I saw i can't login. I thought LR database crashed or my account hacked.

PALSATWA
yes,finally.i can log in my LR without change Password.

sinip
It took me two attempts but I got in. All is well.

lemon_1800
yes,finally.i can log in my LR without change Password.
But I'm facing still the same problem. I'm getting the message below

Account number or password is incorrect. Please check your information and try again.

amely
All fine for me now.....maybe is different from geographic zone.....I do not know how the servers works exactly...often in Europe we have problems that in other country are not present...maybe they need 2 hours to normalize in all country

luke1
LR is back to normal for me too.. I can log in...

wasi90lk
it's working now, good to see that lr solved the problem quickly.

bdsurf
But I'm facing still the same problem. I'm getting the message below

Oh! Might be your problem yet not solved or yet not they start working for India. By the way, i hope your problem will be solved quickly.

Recently by cache problem solved and I don't face any problem to access LR directly.

lemon_1800
Now it's working fine here too. Hope it won't happen again.

maxcool
great... is working ok.. lets the party continue :beer:

Rockstar12345
Yeah its working fine now , hopefully this won't happen again there.

datawell
Nice, it´s working again. :rock:

Spynder
yes, we will see how long :D

tohawk
i just checked my account and i can login to it as usual alredy. that's good it back finally.:)

aldejay
I just login to my account after few weeks so i didn't experience this strange login. But do you feel that your money are still safe in LR? They have an unstable system.

bdsurf
I just login to my account after few weeks so i didn't experience this strange login. But do you feel that your money are still safe in LR? They have an unstable system.

If their database crash, then no doubt that all our money will go. And the current LR system is so much unstable that there is always a possibility that it may be happen. By the way, nothing to do now. I think LR is currently changing the total system and might be for this reason so many problems occurs here.

chardyme
I didn't experience what you have experience with LR. LR is doing great right now for me.

eddielkk
If their database crash, then no doubt that all our money will go. And the current LR system is so much unstable that there is always a possibility that it may be happen. By the way, nothing to do now. I think LR is currently changing the total system and might be for this reason so many problems occurs here.

Well, i think even their database crash, with such a huge site of LR, they suppose to have data mirroring or server mirroring features. Even the main server hard disk gone, the data still be replicated and backup in other place. Those should not be any issue for them, if they really invested in those backup system.

tohawk
well. though we thought LR should have such feature but they have not. so sorts of problems happened again and again. maybe they will have data mirroring o server mirrowing featres later since this time. most of us were all affected by their down..and they need to solve this problem and never let it happen again.

bdsurf
Well, i think even their database crash, with such a huge site of LR, they suppose to have data mirroring or server mirroring features. Even the main server hard disk gone, the data still be replicated and backup in other place. Those should not be any issue for them, if they really invested in those backup system.

I don't have any idea about data mirroring or server mirroring. Can you please explain how it will help LR. By the way, if it works, then I think we can relax more as our account will never be deleted. But if their backup is not updated in every seconds, lots of people will lost money if the data base crash.

By the way, I hope that bad think will not happen.

wasi90lk
If their database crash, then no doubt that all our money will go. And the current LR system is so much unstable that there is always a possibility that it may be happen. By the way, nothing to do now. I think LR is currently changing the total system and might be for this reason so many problems occurs here.

how are you sure that all our money will be gone? how are you sure that they don't have backup?

sinip
I don't have any idea about data mirroring or server mirroring. Can you please explain how it will help LR. By the way, if it works, then I think we can relax more as our account will never be deleted. But if their backup is not updated in every seconds, lots of people will lost money if the data base crash.

By the way, I hope that bad think will not happen.

No backup can be updated every second, but there's something called RAID mirroring that prevents loss of data even if one of several hard disks fail catastrophically.

nanoextreme
Hmm,that is pretty interesting. But however, I know that LR can loose informations about our money,so we loose the money. But we should not leave LR beacuse of that. That fatal crash can happen to every single payment processor. Not just to paypal. SO I think that we shouldnot worry too much about.
These days,I wasnot able to open libertyreserve, And Stil,LR site is just loading,but it doesnt open. What is wrong with them now?

tohawk
have you tried today? it's back days ago already and most of our problem was that we can open the site but we can't login to the account. no matter what we typed on the account number and password it always told the user name or password is wrong. and we have no problem like yours.

jambutty
Earlier today LR was a pig and slower than a tortoise with a broken leg.

Then half an hour ago it was back to normal.

We can only guess why.

Filipe
LR site is loading very slowly at the moment :mad: I have to wait 5 minutes to load only 1 page... :sick:

luke1
I can't access LR at this moment. It is down again and again.

sinip
5 minutes ago it wasn't loading at all, now it loads like champ! This is really getting ridiculous... I'll seriously consider moving my money to PM, not that I have so much of it but nevertheless...

tohawk
oh.they have another down again? i checked my lr account here and found it's back again now.i tend to exchange my LR to local currency also but the rate is not as good as i expected.

lemon_1800
It's working fine here now. I think no need to panic because now it has just become a part of the LR website.

wasi90lk
It's working fine here now. I think no need to panic because now it has just become a part of the LR website.

people are getting frustrated with the constant downtime from lr, they need to do something otherwise they may lose competition to perfect money.

jambutty
well. i heard more and more people said ............. Hearsay and rumour has no place on this forum .............. maybe it's good for me to register on PM account and need us to verify on PM also? i'm getting used to LR's down alredy but i will exchange my LR to local currency once i gain 10$ or so to escape any lose..
That’s the problem with stating, “I have heard” and not quoting the source. Someone else picks up on what someone else has heard, elaborates a little and repeats the hearsay. That is how inaccurate rumours start to the detriment of the programme.

It’s what we used to call Chinese Whispers, a parlour game from many years ago. The name is not meant to be detrimental to the Chinese people or China but the Chinese language was incomprehensible to westerners. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers explains.

LR is sound in spite of their problems, which have NOT been of their making. You cannot legislate when hackers, crackers and DDoS attackers develop a new way of doing their thing.

bdsurf
Though LR is often making problem, but for the recent days it bring much benefit for me. LR rate is high than any other payment processors. I am investing money in hyips and forex, getting payment from it, and exchanging the profit to other processors in high rate. I will be really happy if LR able to keep its high exchange value. These days LR started getting high value. $1 LR is now more powerful than $1.15 Pp, Ap or Mb.

darksorrow
Though LR is often making problem, but for the recent days it bring much benefit for me. LR rate is high than any other payment processors. I am investing money in hyips and forex, getting payment from it, and exchanging the profit to other processors in high rate. I will be really happy if LR able to keep its high exchange value. These days LR started getting high value. $1 LR is now more powerful than $1.15 Pp, Ap or Mb.

Well if this is the case then i would say it is good. Because i don't like LR at all. And if i can exchange LR with AP or MB for such higher value then it is really good fore me. Well there is something at least i like about LR. But for now i am not thinking about doing exchange. I am trying to accumulate some money for now.

tohawk
That’s the problem with stating, “I have heard” and not quoting the source. Someone else picks up on what someone else has heard, elaborates a little and repeats the hearsay. That is how inaccurate rumours start to the detriment of the programme.

It’s what we used to call Chinese Whispers, a parlour game from many years ago. The name is not meant to be detrimental to the Chinese people or China but the Chinese language was incomprehensible to westerners. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers explains.

LR is sound in spite of their problems, which have NOT been of their making. You cannot legislate when hackers, crackers and DDoS attackers develop a new way of doing their thing.

ok. will pay attention next time . :)

maxcool
it seems LR is having problems again... i cant login

"Account number or password is incorrect. Please check your information and try again"

sinip
it seems LR is having problems again... i cant login

"Account number or password is incorrect. Please check your information and try again"

It took me several attempts to get the login page, and got one system error page in the process, but once login page came up I managed to log in without any problems. So it looks like LR does have some system problems again...

bluestone
it seems LR is having problems again... i cant login
"Account number or password is incorrect. Please check your information and try again"
It took me several attempts to get the login page, and got one system error page in the process, but once login page came up I managed to log in without any problems. So it looks like LR does have some system problems again...

I managed to access the site in a breeze and I managed to log-in too.
No problem encountered at my side.

PALSATWA
nothing wrong in my LR @maxcool
i can log in

maxcool
now i can access very quick! with no problem at all... it was a short down by LR!!
i was starting worrying about my high roi investments hehe (quick in and out)

wasi90lk
now i can access very quick! with no problem at all... it was a short down by LR!!
i was starting worrying about my high roi investments hehe (quick in and out)

yes if lr goes down, many users will lose money with lr i guess. that's why it's good not to put all money in one payment processor, in my opinion.

amely
the usually weekly problem with LR...not able to access...too much slowly...when I try to login nothing appends'!!!! boring....every week one problem

luke1
I can't access the LR website again.. I don't know how good LR technical department is. Always facing problem definetely every month.

luke1
After about an hour trying, the site seems back to normal, although little bit heavier..

darksorrow
I am getting this message when i tried to log in to my LR main account:

English

Processing request error

There was en error while processing your request.

Please notify the support team about this error and try to a previous page and execute request with other params.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

What happened to them again? :sick:

tohawk
here everything is working ok and if refresh or retry still can't work. just wait some moment and try again.

PALSATWA
maybe,LR got problem today.
when i withdraw my money from b4u24.com after i check they refund my money.
the reason is LR too busy wait another time.
now i withdraw again.hope LR will fine.

lemon_1800
LR is working fine here now. I didn't check it before today. Maybe it was down and came back if I'm not wrong.

sungatmanwat
when this probelm occurs
i am afriad whats going on
i have been facing some problems in my evowallet account
now liberty reserve as well
oh my GOD whats wrong with e-currency sites to teasing
hope things gone better

chardyme
I haven't encountered any problem as of this moment from Liberty Reserve. They have doing well right now and I haven't encountered any error for a long time now, at least 2 weeks for me. And for evowallet, yes I have encountering the same problem with you sungatmanwat and hopefully evowallet will be able to resolve this as early as possible.

PALSATWA
xixixi...i can't access LR again..
the message "The server at libertyreserve.com is taking too long to respond."

luke1
xixixi...i can't access LR again..
the message "The server at libertyreserve.com is taking too long to respond."

It's loading good, smooth and fast from here. I don't know where your country is, but all is fine here.

chardyme
Well I recently reported that I'm not having trouble accessing liberty reserve website but now I will be reporting that I can't access it right now. It takes too long to load and never loads the whole website. I'm accessing it in my laptop right now and I'm accessing it earlier in the office. Might have been because of my connection of internet, don't you think?

bluestone
@PALSATWA and chardyme.
I have no problem accessing LR site and logging in.
It's loading good, smooth and fast from here.

chardyme
Well I guess it's about my internet connection here in my laptop that causing me not to access Liberty Reserve website accordingly today. Well, I might just check it out tomorrow in the office and hopefully I could access it already. Thanks for informing me about this bluestone, I really appreciate it and thankfully that Liberty Reserve is still functioning well.

jambutty
This thread is about LR and NO OTHER PAYMENT PROCESSOR.

PALSATWA
It's loading good, smooth and fast from here. I don't know where your country is, but all is fine here.
same with u.i will try later.
hope can work again because brow another site still fine.

bdsurf
What happened to my bonus? I referred one member to liberty reserve. I also have $10 in account. That member also exchanged $20 LR for me. But LR is not giving bonus still now. They stopped it? I find in their faq that they are paying bonus still now.

jambutty
What happened to my bonus? I referred one member to liberty reserve. I also have $10 in account. That member also exchanged $20 LR for me. But LR is not giving bonus still now. They stopped it? I find in their faq that they are paying bonus still now.
Have you tried asking LR admin?

PALSATWA
same with u.i will try later.
hope can work again because brow another site still fine.

finally i can log in my LR.i think bad or poor internet connection in my internet line.thanks every body.

chardyme
I was able to access my Liberty Reserve account now here in the office. You are right palsatwa, I think it is because of poor internet connection that I have last night in the house is the cause of not access LR website last night. Thankfully LR is still alive. LOL.

markrevis
Yes, I can access LR via. a proxy, but cannot load it directly.
It is annoying, for me LR keeps going up and down and I don't know why!

darksorrow
Yes, I can access LR via. a proxy, but cannot load it directly.
It is annoying, for me LR keeps going up and down and I don't know why!

I think it is not LR's problem. Before a few months back i also could not access LR directly. It always showed me network error. I knew it was not LR's fault. Because there were some other sites as well which gave me such kinds of trouble. And then i figured it out that it is my ISPs problem. And only particularly in my area that certain sites does not open and only from my isp. I checked other ISPs and there those sites open without any problem.

At that time i had to get some payment on LR so i asked one of my friend to create an account for me and maintain it. And he maintained it till i was able to access LR. But i never used proxy. Don't you think it is a bit risky to use proxy when you open your payment processor account?

markrevis
Oh, I'm not using a proxy to open my LR, just to check the site does actually load and isn't offline again. Everything will be back in a couple of days - it always is.....

bdsurf
Have you tried asking LR admin?

Hey, are you doing fun with me? How will I ask him? And it really looks bad to ask lr customer support just for 25 cent. Please reply if you know. I think you know the reason and I am not.

chardyme
Oh, I'm not using a proxy to open my LR, just to check the site does actually load and isn't offline again. Everything will be back in a couple of days - it always is.....

It must be really about your internet connection on a certain day that makes us not be able to access LR. I don't know about this but it's kinda weird sometimes because there are times it is normal that I was able to connect with same connection preferences and sometimes I can't. It's really weird.

markrevis
It must be really about your internet connection on a certain day that makes us not be able to access LR. I don't know about this but it's kinda weird sometimes because there are times it is normal that I was able to connect with same connection preferences and sometimes I can't. It's really weird.

Well, perhaps, but it is only LR that I regularly cannot access. Very strange.

chardyme
Really strange indeed, I can't disagree with you on this :D

SmartzKool
Well, perhaps, but it is only LR that I regularly cannot access. Very strange.
Well i can't understand your problem because whenever i try to access liberty reserve, i am able to access it. I think its because of your internet connection you are facing this problem.

jambutty
Hey, are you doing fun with me? How will I ask him? And it really looks bad to ask lr customer support just for 25 cent. Please reply if you know. I think you know the reason and I am not.
No I’m not being funny with you.

If LR pays 25 cents as a referral commission and you don’t get credited then something has gone wrong. LR needs to know so that they can put it right.

You write to LR, explain the situation and ask why your account has not been credited with the commission.

jambutty
According to Microsoft it reckons that 97% of all Internet traffic is either SPAM or DDoS attack packets.

If that is true then it is hardly surprising that there will be times when someone somewhere cannot get to a web site of their choice, whilst others can.

Think of it this way.

You leave your house with the intention of going to work in the next town. You get to the main road and find that it is grid locked or moving very, very slowly and you cannot even join the flow of traffic let alone be part of it. So you decide to try and by-pass the blockage but that would mean going away from your destination. You eventually get to work late. At least you get there, whereas others are still stuck in the grid lock or have come across another grid lock as they tried to bypass the blockage. Later on when most of the traffic has cleared your trip is straight forward.

markrevis
According to Microsoft it reckons that 97% of all Internet traffic is either SPAM or DDoS attack packets.

If that is true then it is hardly surprising that there will be times when someone somewhere cannot get to a web site of their choice, whilst others can.

Think of it this way.

You leave your house with the intention of going to work in the next town. You get to the main road and find that it is grid locked or moving very, very slowly and you cannot even join the flow of traffic let alone be part of it. So you decide to try and by-pass the blockage but that would mean going away from your destination. You eventually get to work late. At least you get there, whereas others are still stuck in the grid lock or have come across another grid lock as they tried to bypass the blockage. Later on when most of the traffic has cleared your trip is straight forward.

Well 97%?! That seems higher than I'd have guessed.

It seems I started this but I forgot to mention I live in China, I guess that is why the LR site is unaccessable to me at times - quite possibly it is the Chinese firewall, or some problem with LR site and China - any other Chinese users have problems accessing LR?

SmartzKool
No I’m not being funny with you.

If LR pays 25 cents as a referral commission and you don’t get credited then something has gone wrong. LR needs to know so that they can put it right.

You write to LR, explain the situation and ask why your account has not been credited with the commission.
Well you get the commission when you have a minimum of $10 in your account. I am not sure about this but I guess this is the case.

this is listed in the requirements -
# You must have $10 in your account to be a referrer.

Check it out here - https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/referral/index.aspx

chardyme
Well you get the commission when you have a minimum of $10 in your account. I am not sure about this but I guess this is the case.

this is listed in the requirements -
# You must have $10 in your account to be a referrer.

Check it out here - https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/referral/index.aspx

Well I guess you are right, maybe his account is less than $10 that's why it was not credited to his LR account yet.

markrevis
Well very happy, I can access LR again today! Finally!

SmartzKool
Well I guess you are right, maybe his account is less than $10 that's why it was not credited to his LR account yet.
I think this is the place where people get wrong in referring because they don't read the requirements/rules, they just refer people and at the end they don't get any bonus. This happened with me as well. lol.

tohawk
i have asked LR about why i haven't received my referral bonus before. they replied as below and hope this can be clear to you guys :
------------------------
Dear customer,

Please note that to received the bonus you have to fund your account with a minimum of $10, also the referral have to add this amount and make a transaction.

Remember that you may find all this information in the Referral System link in our Main page. otherwise you may contact our Live Chat Support for further information, we will be glad to assist you.

Thank you.

============================================
Keep your account secure by following these simple rules:
Do NOT click on any links!
We will always address you by your first name.
We will never send you attached files or ask you to update your login information.
Contact us if you are unsure about an email you received.
------------------------

SmartzKool
i have asked LR about why i haven't received my referral bonus before. they replied as below and hope this can be clear to you guys :
------------------------
Dear customer,

Please note that to received the bonus you have to fund your account with a minimum of $10, also the referral have to add this amount and make a transaction.

Remember that you may find all this information in the Referral System link in our Main page. otherwise you may contact our Live Chat Support for further information, we will be glad to assist you.

Thank you.

============================================
Keep your account secure by following these simple rules:
Do NOT click on any links!
We will always address you by your first name.
We will never send you attached files or ask you to update your login information.
Contact us if you are unsure about an email you received.
------------------------
That means i gave you the correct reason why you did not get the referring bonus. It happened to me as well and so i make sure whenever i refer people, i am having $10 in my LR account. :)

bdsurf
also the referral have to add this amount and make a transaction.


Well, I think this is the only reason for why they didn't give me 25 cent bonus. Thanks towhak for this helpful information. Lr doesn't show this requirement in their site.

I think for this policy LR will never loss any money for referral commission because when you will receive $10 and spend it again, LR will get 20 cent as fees which make the site stable..

jambutty
Well, I think this is the only reason for why they didn't give me 25 cent bonus. Thanks towhak for this helpful information. Lr doesn't show this requirement in their site.

I think for this policy LR will never loss any money for referral commission because when you will receive $10 and spend it again, LR will get 20 cent as fees which make the site stable..
Have a look at https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/referral/index.aspx

bdsurf
Have a look at https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/referral/index.aspx

Thanks for the link. I saw it before.

I am telling that LR didn't write in their referral requirements that our referrals also need to exchange at least for once to make us eligible for bonus. I think i didn't get bonus because my referral still not change any money. I already fulfill the other requirements which is written in their website.


After your suggestion today I wrote lr about this issue. I hope it will be solved.

lemon_1800
Today I'm not able to login into LR and I'm getting the following message if I try to login. Hope it's not only me.

English
Processing request error

Русский
Ошибка выполнения запроса

Deutsch
Fehler bei der Anfragebearbeitung

Indonesian

There was en error while processing your request.

Please notify the support team about this error and try to a previous page and execute request with other params.

We apologize for the inconvenience.


Произошла ошибка во время выполнения вашего запроса.

Пожалуйста, оповестите службу поддержки о возникшей ошибке и попробуйте вернуться назад и выполнить свой запрос с другими параметрами.

Приносим свои извинения за временные неудобства.


Bei der Bearbeitung Ihrer Anfrage ist ein Fehler aufgetreten.

Bitte teilen Sie unserem Kundendienst diesen Fehler mit und versuchen Sie bitte auf die Vorseite zurückzugehen und die Anfrage mit anderen Parametern auszuführen.

Wir bitten um Ihr Verständnis!

markrevis
Not just you everyone is facing the same problem

Yet ANOTHER LR downtime.....

lemon_1800
Not just you everyone is facing the same problem

Yet ANOTHER LR downtime.....
Well, then it's bad indeed, It has been down for a long time since morning. I'm not happy with it.

daytraderfx
The same procedure as every sunday I guess. :confused:

bluestone
Yes.

I get the same 'error page' when logging in.

vbleble
To me, LR is popular but not good. The sevice is far beyond satisfactory. Luckily, it is well accepted by hyips, so they are popular because of their marketing but not for their standard of service.

Rockstar12345
Damm i tried to log in to check my hyip payments but still the error comes , seems the problems are coming thick and fast now.

Dimk
Still down; hopefully it is going to be fixed soon.

luke1
I can only see the 1st page of Liberty Reserve, but can't log in. As always, too many often.

daytraderfx
yeah annoying.

carrie99
Yes, i am also having problem to log-in until now. Seems like, it needs to take time to recover its normal function again..Hope tomorrow LR would be alright again...

PALSATWA
hohoho very disappointed,almost down every week.

thinkpink
Here is the same.. :o Same old story.. :angry:
Liberty Reserve is quite disturbing with these almost weekly downtimes.. :o

daytraderfx
Well I guess it isn´t so easy to provide a smooth service in that business.

darksorrow
Here is the same.. :o Same old story.. :angry:
Liberty Reserve is quite disturbing with these almost weekly downtimes.. :o

Yeah...as usual...lol

Well still people would say it is the best payment processor out there. There are many other payment processors available out there to replace LR then why don't they switch to those. I really wonder why!!!

Well i never liked LR from the begining but still have to use it because of it's wide acceptance on net. :mad: But i really hope LR does take some action about their problems and let people use a payment processor without downtime. :angry:

Dimk
Finally, it is working again, guys.

Check your accounts.

Btw, this is from the LR blog

Dear friends,

It has been reported to us that some of you have experienced difficulties making transfers or sending internal messages. We are aware of this situation now and are working to rectify the situation as soon as it is possible.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused to some of you.

No comments from me, lol.

markrevis
Well now I get "System is offline for maintenance " anyone else?

Dimk
Same here;
it went down again.

EDIT: Now it is up again. Apparently they're working on it.

luke1
It is fine here, I can log in.

lemon_1800
Yes it's fine now everywhere. It has been fixed up. As I already said, downtime has just become a part of the LR website.

bdsurf
Yes it's fine now everywhere. It has been fixed up. As I already said, downtime has just become a part of the LR website.

Well, now I can also logged in. But this time I am very much annoyed on LR. I missed the opportunity of earning $3 from exchanging. I completed the deal and when I went to complete exchange to LR, I found it is not working and missed the opportunity. I don't understand why they don't change their technicians. They are losing popularity day by day.

Stock999
Well, now I can also logged in. But this time I am very much annoyed on LR. I missed the opportunity of earning $3 from exchanging. I completed the deal and when I went to complete exchange to LR, I found it is not working and missed the opportunity. I don't understand why they don't change their technicians. They are losing popularity day by day.May be , these downtimes are happening so often in the last time because of their popularity growing day by day. More users are loading the site and the technician staff more than it was in past times.
No matter, it works normally now , i'm able to log in , to make and receive transactions. I don't consider one day of downtime in weekend as a big problem.:)

tohawk
well. i was supposed to recieve one payment from myhyip forum recently but have yet to . i guess that's the affection from LR's downtime so that admin can't loginto his LR account and make the payment. wish LR can going well today and tomorrow than i can recieve my LR from them.

Rockstar12345
Yeah seems they came back in the morning as i recieved my first payment then , btw they said in their blog that we were having difficulty in making transfer , lol i could not reach the second step.

chardyme
I'm not having any problem with LR right now.

bdsurf
May be , these downtimes are happening so often in the last time because of their popularity growing day by day. More users are loading the site and the technician staff more than it was in past times.
No matter, it works normally now , i'm able to log in , to make and receive transactions. I don't consider one day of downtime in weekend as a big problem.:)

I think their growing members are not responsible for this as they are just asking some more bandwith and extra space in their mysql database . The system is automated and it can't allow that type of problems just for increasing members.

The last error they show to us is new and they do not described what is the reason of the problem or actually what type of problem it is. I think they do not like to make a change in a different server with the same script, they directly implied it on the existing script otherwise i don't find any reason of having different types of problem every time after a short intervals of time when the system is already okay and any change is not necessary.

chardyme
I hope that Liberty Reserve would continue to do well and hopefully this accessing and connecting to their site problem will not become a sign that there something about LR that we should watch out for.

tohawk
I think their growing members are not responsible for this as they are just asking some more bandwith and extra space in their mysql database . The system is automated and it can't allow that type of problems just for increasing members.

The last error they show to us is new and they do not described what is the reason of the problem or actually what type of problem it is. I think they do not like to make a change in a different server with the same script, they directly implied it on the existing script otherwise i don't find any reason of having different types of problem every time after a short intervals of time when the system is already okay and any change is not necessary.

i did not meet that down time so do not what kind of error about that down problem.do you think that's the server problem while they do not want to change the server and if LR change the server they need to revise the script also?

chardyme
It is still working fine with me and it's a good thing that LR is still up and running. I hope they will never turned into a scam like evowallet.

tohawk
well. their service is comfortable currently except the short down time. lol~
but it's hard to define anything forever and i have exchanged my LR to locla currency when i collected 20$ everytime. it's convenient to exchange LR here acutally. so i prefer to receive my online payment by LR also:)

chardyme
LR is really a nice payment processor and right now I only have 2 active payment processors, that was Liberty Reserve and Paypal. I also prefer receiving money from Liberty Reserve.

tohawk
normally we often receive payment via LR.paypal and alertpay now.the reason i prefer Lr is that LR can easy to be exchanged to local currency or exchanged to other ecurrency under little fees. but paypal and alertpay is costy and i can't afford to.

bluestone
normally we often receive payment via LR.paypal and alertpay now.the reason i prefer Lr is that LR can easy to be exchanged to local currency or exchanged to other ecurrency under little fees. but paypal and alertpay is costy and i can't afford to.

@tohawk.
Why do you say "LR can easy to be exchanged to local currency or exchanged to other ecurrency under little fees."?

For LR$, you will need a e-currency exchangers to change it to hard currency, such as S$, HK$, or your RMB (at a fee of some 4% - 5%), and then you will have to pay for bank-wire and bank charges.

To do so, you will need to have an account with the e-currency exchanger. Some exchangers are stringent and they require your account with them to go through ID and bank verification, before they allow you to do the transfer of fund.

Am I correct on these? tohawk.

So, I think for LR$, both exchanging in and exchanging out are costly and tedious.

PayPal claims they allow direct withdrawal to your local bank account.

But, I know there is a PayPal-International and there is a PayPal-China.
PayPal-China is more specifically known as PayPal-宝贝 and its account is in RMB currency and restricted to usage within China.

I wonder whether there is a linkage between PayPal-International and PayPal-宝贝 (PayPal-China). By linkage, I mean whether a person can have an account on each side and then interchanging currencies between the two accounts. I suspect probably not.

lemon_1800
LR is not accessible now in my area, but some other people(from my country but in different areas) say they can access. So it's just again a new downtime.

shray0686
I can access the site easily i dont know why lemon_1800 cant access but i am easily accessing the site

nanoextreme
I can access the site easily i dont know why lemon_1800 cant access but i am easily accessing the site

In this moment I can open Libertyreserve site without any problems.
But few days ago, I could not acces libertyreserve so easily. I could open main site,but I couldnt login my account.

tohawk
i exchanged my LR to local currency yesterday and everything is going just fine.
if other areas members of the same country can login but only you can't. i think there is some problem with your isp/

bluestone
i exchanged my LR to local currency yesterday and everything is going just fine.
if other areas members of the same country can login but only you can't. i think there is some problem with your isp/

@Could you explain how you exchange your LR $ to your local currency?
Did you just use a recommended currency exchanger in LR site?

vbleble
I canot access LR in hong kong as well. And from verifield, API is also not responding again, so instant withrawl cannot be made.

wasi90lk
it's getting frustrating to see lr has problem so often. i guess many members will leave lr for good if it happens on a regular basis.

chardyme
Right now when I checked my payment received from goldentalk earlier, I did not get any problem accessing Liberty Account. Or am I just in a right time to access Liberty Reserve that's why I did not encountered the same problem as yours.

tohawk
@tohawk.
Why do you say "LR can easy to be exchanged to local currency or exchanged to other ecurrency under little fees."?

For LR$, you will need a e-currency exchangers to change it to hard currency, such as S$, HK$, or your RMB (at a fee of some 4% - 5%), and then you will have to pay for bank-wire and bank charges.

To do so, you will need to have an account with the e-currency exchanger. Some exchangers are stringent and they require your account with them to go through ID and bank verification, before they allow you to do the transfer of fund.

Am I correct on these? tohawk.

So, I think for LR$, both exchanging in and exchanging out are costly and tedious.

PayPal claims they allow direct withdrawal to your local bank account.

But, I know there is a PayPal-International and there is a PayPal-China.
PayPal-China is more specifically known as PayPal-宝贝 and its account is in RMB currency and restricted to usage within China.

I wonder whether there is a linkage between PayPal-International and PayPal-宝贝 (PayPal-China). By linkage, I mean whether a person can have an account on each side and then interchanging currencies between the two accounts. I suspect probably not.


nop.friend. now the bank exchange rate from USD to CNY is 1$ to 6.83¥ and the exchange rate from LR to CNY on one local exchanger named girlexchange.cn is 1$ LR to 6.85CNY. you can check the girlexchange.cn also since you can read in Chinese..lol~
so i exchanged my 20$ LR with it and i get 135.7CNY finally. here we do not need to pay any other fees except the 1% when transfer LR to girlexchange's LR account. they sent me CNY by alipay and that's totally free.
paypal do not allow bank withdraw (directly transfer our paypal money to local bank account) still. only bank wire is allowed and they charged 35$ per bank wire.
yes.paypal.com.cn related to paypal.com and i just checked this for you. :)
i use my paypal account and password logged into paypal.com.cn also.
and can't find any option on paypal.com.cn to exchange USD to CNY itself.
there are two option like on paypal.com about the withdraw"bank wire to your Chinese local bank account or transfer to your hongkong bank account"
hope this can be clear to you now.:)

bluestone
nop.friend. now the bank exchange rate from USD to CNY is 1$ to 6.83¥ and the exchange rate from LR to CNY on one local exchanger named girlexchange.cn is 1$ LR to 6.85CNY. you can check the girlexchange.cn also since you can read in Chinese..lol~
so i exchanged my 20$ LR with it and i get 135.7CNY finally. here we do not need to pay any other fees except the 1% when transfer LR to girlexchange's LR account. they sent me CNY by alipay and that's totally free.
paypal do not allow bank withdraw (directly transfer our paypal money to local bank account) still. only bank wire is allowed and they charged 35$ per bank wire.
yes.paypal.com.cn related to paypal.com and i just checked this for you. :)
i use my paypal account and password logged into paypal.com.cn also.
and can't find any option on paypal.com.cn to exchange USD to CNY itself.
there are two option like on paypal.com about the withdraw"bank wire to your Chinese local bank account or transfer to your hongkong bank account"
hope this can be clear to you now.:)
Thank you, Tohawk.
Now, I understand the LR$ exchange situation in your country.
I also notice the LR$ to CNY exchange rate very close to hard currencies exchange rate. Charges are also comparatively low.

By the way, you say: ".. ..they sent me CNY by alipay and that's totally free." Coule you please explain what is "alipay".

Did you mean that with your paypal.com's account and password, you could log into paypal.com.cn?

markrevis
Thank you, Tohawk.
Now, I understand the LR$ exchange situation in your country.
I also notice the LR$ to CNY exchange rate very close to hard currencies exchange rate. Charges are also comparatively low.

By the way, you say: ".. ..they sent me CNY by alipay and that's totally free." Coule you please explain what is "alipay".

Did you mean that with your paypal.com's account and password, you could log into paypal.com.cn?

alipay is a Chinese processor owned by Alibaba - but I think you need to have a Chinese bank account to open an account there.

tohawk
Thank you, Tohawk.
Now, I understand the LR$ exchange situation in your country.
I also notice the LR$ to CNY exchange rate very close to hard currencies exchange rate. Charges are also comparatively low.

By the way, you say: ".. ..they sent me CNY by alipay and that's totally free." Coule you please explain what is "alipay".

Did you mean that with your paypal.com's account and password, you could log into paypal.com.cn?


yes.i logged into paypal.com.cn by using my paypal.com's account and password.
check more details about alipay via alipay.com.
so regarding paypal's shortage about withdraw here. LR is our first choice and it can equal to hard currency exchange rate after deducted the transfer fees by LR at least.lol~

bluestone
alipay is a Chinese processor owned by Alibaba - but I think you need to have a Chinese bank account to open an account there.
Thank you for your information, Markrevis.
I just checked and found alipay and tenpay are two Chinese processors.

yes.i logged into paypal.com.cn by using my paypal.com's account and password.
check more details about alipay via alipay.com.
so regarding paypal's shortage about withdraw here. LR is our first choice and it can equal to hard currency exchange rate after deducted the transfer fees by LR at least.lol~
Even though paypal.com and paypal.com.cn are directly linked in membership as though they are one, the trouble is paypal has no currency conversion facility. Actually, paypal.com allows storage of numerous currencies. Unfortunately, CNY is not one of the currencies here; perhaps, because CNY is not internationally floated currency.

Well, Tohawk. Now, I know what you mean LR$ is your first choice e-currency owing to girlexchange.com.

bdsurf
After reading several threads on perfect money in some online forums besides talkgold and goldentalk, I think many people will become panicked and LR rate will increase more. I am fearing that after some days it will be totally impossible to buy LR by exchanging other e-currency for its too high rate if PM go down. Its rate against other e-currency is increasing too quickly. i will no longer spend any lr from now without investing in hyips and forex.

tohawk
Thank you for your information, Markrevis.
I just checked and found alipay and tenpay are two Chinese processors.


Even though paypal.com and paypal.com.cn are directly linked in membership as though they are one, the trouble is paypal has no currency conversion facility. Actually, paypal.com allows storage of numerous currencies. Unfortunately, CNY is not one of the currencies here; perhaps, because CNY is not internationally floated currency.

Well, Tohawk. Now, I know what you mean LR$ is your first choice e-currency owing to girlexchange.com.

yes.LR would be Chinese's first choice if they always performs good and have higher rate than other ecurrencies.
@burdsf. i don't think PM will down and it will expand their service on the future.i get the message from PM that they need more Chinese members and they will promote PM worldwide still.
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bdsurf
yes.LR would be Chinese's first choice if they always performs good and have higher rate than other ecurrencies.
@burdsf. i don't think PM will down and it will expand their service on the future.i get the message from PM that they need more Chinese members and they will promote PM worldwide still.
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Well, after reading this thread:

http://goldentalk.com/t35477.html

You will be able to guess why PM needs so many promoters. They tried to crash the business of LR and now I think they send DDOS attack to LR server.

If PM gone, I think it will bring you more benefit for you as LR value will increase more.

N.B - I am not the promoter of Liberty Reserve. :D

wasi90lk
someone tried to make an article in wikipedia and it got deleted. check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Money.

it shows that perfectmoney is not a reliable payment processor.

lemon_1800
LR has been down here since yesterday night but no one is reporting about it here, so I wonder if it's only me or what.

carrie99
Nope, i am also having the same problem..I only discovered it a few hours ago when i want to check my LR balance. Until now, the system is still down. Seems like, LR system is having problem again, same like last week. Last week, i also facing this problem with LR.

tohawk
i just logged into my LR account and it's working fine. try again and maybe it has come back again already.

markrevis
LR has been down here since yesterday night but no one is reporting about it here, so I wonder if it's only me or what.

I am having no problems with my account, this morning I both received and paid money fine ............

midasfl
I am having no problems with my account, this morning I both received and paid money fine ............

Maybe its certain areas only

chardyme
I don't have any problem with Liberty Reserve yesterday and today. I don't know what is really happening in LR in your part my friend.

lemon_1800
Well, as asual, I cannot access from the direct link www.libertyreserve.com, but I can access from this link which I got from Google : https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/customer/login2/index.aspx

tohawk
so you have a solution now. try the alertnative link if the site name itself can't work.
i'm still afraid that's your isp problem ..

bdsurf
Well, as asual, I cannot access from the direct link www.libertyreserve.com, but I can access from this link which I got from Google : https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/customer/login2/index.aspx

Well, facing the same problem like you from the last 2-3 month but so much bored with it that do not like to discuss about it more. From Sinip now i guess its my ISP problem. But II do not understand why my ISP create problem only with LR and not a singular other site.

But this URL also work nicely for me:

https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/

darksorrow
Well, facing the same problem like you from the last 2-3 month but so much bored with it that do not like to discuss about it more. From Sinip now i guess its my ISP problem. But II do not understand why my ISP create problem only with LR and not a singular other site.

But this URL also work nicely for me:

https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/

Well it is your ISP problem. Because i have also faced problem on accessing LR when i wanted to create an account at first. But could not access the site then. And i can say this is not LR problem because at that time i also was unable to access a few other sites and when i tried to access those sites from other ISP lines i was able to access them. So i was sure it was my line problem.

Since we are from the same city so i can say your ISP is now having the problem i was having. And for your information they may say it's because the site has bad IP (i don't know what it is) :D and will say it can't be accessed for that reason. :D

eddielkk
Well, facing the same problem like you from the last 2-3 month but so much bored with it that do not like to discuss about it more. From Sinip now i guess its my ISP problem. But II do not understand why my ISP create problem only with LR and not a singular other site.

But this URL also work nicely for me:

https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/

Those site connected with https extension is protected by SSL connection. So, i think even your ISP would like to block some so called "bad" sites, they wouldn't block https connection, as this is a certified secure connection and should be always trustable one. So, the best way to connect LR site is still through https address.

darksorrow
This is really annoying today on LR. I was about to log in to my account and i found out that my LR login pin is not working :mad: I know i did type the right code but still it is not working. :angry:

Then i requested to reset my codes and now waiting and still the code has not arrived. :mad: This is really annoying to me now.

Any idea how long will it take to get my reset password?

sinip
What PIN are you talking about, a PIN to access your main account or 4 digits turing number (captcha) shown at the main login page? If turing number is the problem then it is your ISP to be blamed, and there's nothing wrong with your account.

darksorrow
What PIN are you talking about, a PIN to access your main account or 4 digits turing number (captcha) shown at the main login page? If turing number is the problem then it is your ISP to be blamed, and there's nothing wrong with your account.

I was talking about the 5 digit pin which i get after the personal message. This was not working and now i had to reset all my passwords. :mad: Well a few while ago i got the mail and changed all my passwords as well. Hopefully i won't see such kind of problem in future.

sinip
Just to be on a safe side, do scan your PC with Malwarebyte's Anti-Malware and SpyBot's Search&Destroy.

goldenwords
Hey good, I think its just to protect ur data eiher or may be the server problem

bdsurf
This is really annoying today on LR. I was about to log in to my account and i found out that my LR login pin is not working :mad: I know i did type the right code but still it is not working. :angry:

Then i requested to reset my codes and now waiting and still the code has not arrived. :mad: This is really annoying to me now.

Any idea how long will it take to get my reset password?

Well, I also faced it today. But it solved when I logout and logged again.

By the way, once I reset my password. It come in my mail within seconds. Reset password come instantly. You didn't get it?

tohawk
well. why reset the login pin and did that new login pin working on that case?
in my opinion is that login pin system have problem not the wrong login you guys typed.

luke1
I receive an e-mail from Liberty Reserve. But I'm afraid it is not real.
When I click the link in the e-mail, it can't be accessed.


Important info regarding your Liberty Reserve account‏
From: Liberty Reserve (no_reply@libertyreserve.com)
Sent: Sat 6/27/09 8:35 AM
To: xxxxx (us_xxxxx@xxxxx.com)

______________________________________________________________________________________________

This message is automatic and serves the purpose of notifying you that you are one of the ten winners in this year's LR lottery. You will receive personalized assistance after reading the email and following the instructions outlined in it.
______________________________________________________________________________________________


Hello,


As a member of Liberty Reserve, you are entitled to participating in our lottery, and we are extremely happy to announce that you have been selected as one of the ten winners. The Liberty Reserve lottery is ( and will be ) a one-time annual event that we started this year and that is held in our administration offices. Ten member accounts have been selected at a random principle and your account is one of them.Your prize is a one-time doubling of a single transaction that you receive in your LR account. There is only one rule - the transaction MUST be made from an e-currency exchanger. That means, for you to benefit from the prize, you will have to buy some Liberty Reserve from an exchanger, and when they fund your account, we will double the sum that entered your LR account. This will not be an automatic process, but done manually by our Support team. So, in essence, what you have to do:


1. Fund your Liberty Reserve account with a sum not larger than 10,000 USD. We have decided to impose this restriction for security purposes. So, if you order and fund your LR account with 10,000 USD, it will be doubled upon receipt, thus leaving you with a balance of 20,000 USD. This is the maximum prize that you can get.


2. Once the transaction has been approved, our Support team will manually modify your account balance.


3. This prize is valid ONLY for your next inexchange transaction coming from an exchanger of ecurrency.


4. This prize is valid for the next 12 days. The deadline for the receipt of the LR funds from the exchanger, eligible for doubling, is 9th July.


5. The sum that would be eligible for doubling, could be anywhere from 1 USD up to 10,000 USD. Please take into account though, that this prize is a one-time event - the more you put into your account, the larger your prize will be.



In order to confirm your willingness to claim your prize, and agree to the above terms, please click on the weblink below and follow the instructions. You will be presented with a few questions, as well as undergo a quick identity verification check. After you have completed the procedure, you will be contacted via email by a representative of our Prize Department, who will give you further instructions and guidance as to how to proceed with your account funding, or answer any other questions you may have.


CLAIM YOUR LIBERTY RESERVE PRIZE HERE:

https://www.libertyreserve.com/en/customer/prize/confirm.aspx?prizeid=90sdKjdLieNM


Note: This prize is not to be considered as an investment of any type. That means, you fund your LR account, get the prize doubling and then do whatever you want with the final sum ( outexchange it, keep it in your LR account, it's up to you ). No strings and obligations attached.

Once again, congratulations!

------------------------------

Liberty Reserve Support team

bluestone
I receive an e-mail from Liberty Reserve. But I'm afraid it is not real.
When I click the link in the e-mail, it can't be accessed.


Important info regarding your Liberty Reserve account‏
From: Liberty Reserve (no_reply@libertyreserve.com)
Sent: Sat 6/27/09 8:35 AM
To: xxxxx (us_xxxxx@xxxxx.com)

______________________________________________________________________________________________

This message is automatic and serves the purpose of notifying you that you are one of the ten winners in this year's LR lottery. You will receive personalized assistance after reading the email and following the instructions outlined in it.
______________________________________________________________________________________________


Hello,


As a member of Liberty Reserve, you are entitled to participating in our lottery, and we are extremely happy to announce that you have been selected as one of the ten winners. The Liberty Reserve lottery is ( and will be ) a one-time annual event .... ... ... .... ... ... .. .
Once again, congratulations!

------------------------------

Liberty Reserve Support team

I also received the same e-mail.
I believe it is another phishing attempt; so I simply delete it.

Dimk
Of course it is a phishing mail; as we know, LR does NOT send e-mails with links to click and always addresses us with the first name.

markrevis
at the top of every e-mail from LR is the following:

============================================
Please note that in all e-mails from Liberty Reserve we will:
Always address you by your first name.
Never send you any links or attached files.
Never ask you to send us your password and/or login PIN.
============================================

so there is no need to fall for any of these kinds of scam,

link=scam

aldejay
If you have click the link, better check you pc for spywares just to avoid regrets in future.
Liberty reserve don't run any tottery contest and if ever they do, it would be a popular issue in forums and everyone would hope to win.

bdsurf
Maximum new phishing mails against LR is linking to liberty reserve pages instead of their own site. As they have no opportunity to get benefited from it personally, I think it is done by the opponents of LR. A payment processor is doing everything to decrease the reputation of LR by its phishing mail and lots of promoters..

markrevis
Maximum new phishing mails against LR is linking to liberty reserve pages instead of their own site. As they have no opportunity to get benefited from it personally, I think it is done by the opponents of LR. A payment processor is doing everything to decrease the reputation of LR by its phishing mail and lots of promoters..

A possibility. But in my mind, not needed. LRs reputation is being hurt far more by its downtime, login problems etc. than any phishing emails!

aldejay
If it would be that case, then think of similar ecurrensy that have been put aside by other users. But i'm not concluding anything here just maybe.

chardyme
Well I never received that new phishing mail from Liberty Reserve. Yeah maybe it is from LR's rival and trying to ruin LR. Anyways, LR for me is still doing good and I never experience any downtimes yet again.

archy22
Well yes there are lots of phishing mails coming for the liberty reserve accounts. Hence we need to be very muhc careful not to sign in wiht those links that they provide in the phishing mails. Now a days those mails are reduced though.

lemon_1800
Maximum new phishing mails against LR is linking to liberty reserve pages instead of their own site. As they have no opportunity to get benefited from it personally, I think it is done by the opponents of LR. A payment processor is doing everything to decrease the reputation of LR by its phishing mail and lots of promoters..
No dude, it's not like that. As somewhere Sinip explaied, it's a link which will mislead you. If you click the link directly, you will be taken to phishing sites, but if you copy and paste the link somewhere and then click it, you will be taken to libertyreserve original site. Those links provided above is a copy-paste one that's why it's directing to the original website. It's the trick followed by those scammers.

bluestone
No dude, it's not like that. As somewhere Sinip explaied, it's a link which will mislead you. If you click the link directly, you will be taken to phishing sites, but if you copy and paste the link somewhere and then click it, you will be taken to libertyreserve original site. Those links provided above is a copy-paste one that's why it's directing to the original website. It's the trick followed by those scammers.
Oh! There is such a delicate difference between clicking the link and copy-paste the link.
Who would have thought of that?
This is a wonderful piece of information.

betsybee
Oh! There is such a delicate difference between clicking the link and copy-paste the link.
Who would have thought of that?
This is a wonderful piece of information.

DO NOT EVER click a link to LR from an email :eek: . It even tells you that right on Liberty Reserve's sign-in page.

It is also not wise to copy and paste the link.

The ONLY SAFE WAY to access LR is from your bookmarks/favorites. AND be sure you have Libertyguard installed and working.

Stay safe everyone.

carrie99
Yeah, it's right that we should never click from any link to access LR account. Otherwise, all our personal info was gather by those scammers. Actually, i had received another email request me to confirm one transaction but they don't address direct to me. So, i just delete that email, seems like another phishing email.

bdsurf
Today i wondered when I checked my LR history. I never had more than $200 lr in any of my 2 lr account. But in the last 33 days I received about $1457 (receiving funds from some one and then send it again to others). That means LR took about $14.57 fees from me just in one month.

I think I am a general users of LR and not a big merchant user. So, they need to lowered the exchange fees to $0.5%. Though when we hear 1%, it seems low, but now I consider 1% is really not low. Payment processors are earning a huge money every money. I never believe their cost is more than $20,000 every month, specially LR.

lemon_1800
@bdsurf, I don't understand what you mean by here. You said you never had more than $200 LR in your account and then you were saying you had $1457 in your account. Anyway, remember maximum fees charged by LR is just $2.99, so even if you send $1457, the fee is just $2.99, not $14.57.

markrevis
@bdsurf, I don't understand what you mean by here. You said you never had more than $200 LR in your account and then you were saying you had $1457 in your account. Anyway, remember maximum fees charged by LR is just $2.99, so even if you send $1457, the fee is just $2.99, not $14.57.

I think he meant, over the last month he had a total of $1457 in transactions(i.e. not all at the same time) so he wasted $14,57 in fees,

But still I think that is pretty reasonable, did you work out what PP would have charged you if you could use that? or AP?

carrie99
Had anyone having problem to log-in LR now? Seems like, LR system in my area is down again. I want to check my balance but unable to log-in now...

markrevis
Had anyone having problem to log-in LR now? Seems like, LR system in my area is down again. I want to check my balance but unable to log-in now...

It is working fine for me, and usually LR goes down 3-4 times a week where I am! So if I can access it it should be OK for everyone!!

bdsurf
@bdsurf, I don't understand what you mean by here. You said you never had more than $200 LR in your account and then you were saying you had $1457 in your account. Anyway, remember maximum fees charged by LR is just $2.99, so even if you send $1457, the fee is just $2.99, not $14.57.

Well, I was never so rich in online or never so lucky to receive $1457 at a time. Markrevis give a nice exact explanation. I am doing many exchanges these days. So, daily receive $30-$150 LR and use it for exchanging AP, MB, PP. This is why I yet not get any discount from LR.


I think he meant, over the last month he had a total of $1457 in transactions(i.e. not all at the same time) so he wasted $14,57 in fees,

But still I think that is pretty reasonable, did you work out what PP would have charged you if you could use that? or AP?

PP is very cruel and I really hate it though I use it. Its charge is too high. So, I will not compare LR with PP. But, AP is good. :rock: . They do not take any charge from me for sending or receiving. :beer: