jambutty

It would appear that there is a better chance of getting blood out of a stone than there is of getting paid these days.

13 DailyProThe refund list grows longer but according to the list there doesn’t seem to be any refunds being made.

KnightsGoldSurf
Plea from Nate – Please keep your payout requests to minimum value then I can pay more members.
My request for payment went in on the 19th April to be paid within 7 days.
July 21st – No payment so far and now all cashout requests have been put back into accounts so that we can compound if we want to.

Camelot Surf
Cash balance from Knights Surfers transferred to CS. Cashout request made on the 15 June. Nothing paid yet.

Maximum Surf
They’ve pulled every trick in the book to avoid making a payment and cashout now stands at plus 90 days.

Gotta Lotta Hits/Marketing
Supposedly making refunds. Not so far.

Total Rune – Instant Money Flow
Cashout terms changed to requests can only be made 15 days apart and payout is at plus 14 business days providing a tax form is completed and emailed/faxed to them.

ProSurfInvest
Cashouts at plus 7 business days. The last two cashout requests that I made I had to remind ProSurfInvest to make them and they paid up. The latest request on the 7th July has passed the 7 business days and yet again I have had to remind them. This time there is silence.

Surf Traffic Dinar
Requested 2,000 IQD on the 11th April and paid the $3 shipping fee. Nothing.
Requested a further 2,000 IQD on the 9th June and paid the $3 shipping fee. Still nothing.
After many attempts to contact STD eventually got a reply on 11th July – “Expect a shipment from the US in the next 7 days.”

11th plus 7 days equals 18th. Today the 21st and no IQD’s.

Private Investors Club.
No refunds as promised.

Golden Rocks.
No refunds as promised.

Cash Twist Traffic
No refunds as promised.

PeterB

Yes, what's going on... Uniclear just make excuses and even the old faithful and trusted exchanges like Londongold exchange have started making excuses...

One think i know for cirtain is that it's not the banks... i've never had a problem with a real bank and somewhere along the line our money is kept in a real bank... So what are they doing with it...

I guess that's a stupid question... They are ripping us off.

jambutty

I think that you might find that it is the banks doing a bit of back stabbing PeterB. After all the Internet money making schemes that still pay up undercut the banks by a huge margin. Even AsianPay with its low LYIP rates undercuts high street banks.

I would suggest that there are billions upon billions of dollars moving around in cyberspace outside of the banks’ control and they won’t like that.

There are two ways to succeed in business. Be better than the opposition or get rid of the opposition by hook or by crook. If all the on-line payment processors disappeared overnight the banks would be delirious.

I know that on-line payment processors have their member’s account money in a bank but it is a collective lump sum that is only drawn upon when real cash has to be transferred. In the meantime cyber cash gets moved around hither and thither making the on-line processor cyber money and not the banks.

I think that it is only a matter of time before the whole caboodle gets a major shake up.

kyteflyer

I think you are right. Added to that the fact that the fulltime scammers have obviously found their new cash cow (AS and HYIP) which explains the explosion of such sites... I wonder how many are out there? It just seems like theres more and more new ones every day, the market isnt big enough to hold all of them. It reminds me of when All-Advantage came about, followed by Spedia and a few others... then the market got saturated with "me too" bars, killing off whatever there was.

I'm contemplating withdrawing the few funds I have left back to my bank account, and waiting this out. There will be another something but I have no clue what it would be... so I'll be hanging around like a bad smell until I do

[edit] Then again.... sigh... you find something you think might be okay. I'm looking at another AS lord help me. Maybe I'll just keep going til the current funds run out and then take a restette..

Doommister

I hope that doesn't mean you all give up in this online money making.
I'll be lonely..

peterg

There is definitely something going on. It's not only autosurfs, I'm having problems trying to get a withdrawal out of FXIG. I applied for a withdrawal in June, then early this month they said that (because of shifting brokerage accounts) June's withdrawals would not be paid so please re-apply. At that point I asked for a total withdrawal and account closure. I haven't been paid and 2 mails to Admin have not been answered.

Could that mean that some of your AS progs have tied their money into FXIG and can't get it out ?

It's a worry.....

jambutty

Well stone me (ducks to avoid flying stones from some of the more enthusiastic members) I found a refund from Private Investors Club in my E-Gold account this morning. Not only a refund of my stake but $6.01 profit as well. The exception that proves the rule I guess but welcome none-the-less.

Cheer up kyteflyer – just sit on your hands and your wallet/purse and repeat after me; “I must not invest in any new programme no matter how good it looks. I KNOW it will probably be a scam.”

Stick with what you’ve got going and wait it out. Yes! I know! You do your daily stint and very quickly you have nothing to do. It’s boring! You have a few dollars of E-Gold doing nothing and you feel that it should be doing something to earn you some money.

RESIST THE TEMPTATION! After a few weeks it becomes second nature.

The Internet, just like the real world, will always have scammers and right now I think that they have the upper hand and a world full of newbies all running around with money to lose.

I occupy the vast amounts of spare time that I now have with other things. I’m on a local town forum where the discussions are about everything and anything in the real world.

We are discussing the UK National Lottery, a proposed tax on light bulbs, the hot summer spell, reminiscing about school in the 40’s and 50’s and a variety of other topics usually slagging off our government’s incompetence or the current middle east crisis. This still leaves me some time to continue to sample my old 78’s, clean up the sound by getting rid of the crackles and hisses etc. and put them onto a DVD for eventual making of CD’s of my old tunes. I should finish by 2050. And I have 21 old Laurel and Hardy films on DVD to watch and just arrived today The Jolson Story and Jolson Sings Again. Aaaarggghhh! If only there were more hours in a day?

I’m also having a crack at the UK Ministry of Defence for issuing reject UK Armed Forces Veterans Lapel Badges as a thank you gesture for the Veteran’s contribution to the country. The badge has two dents in it. My local evening paper has taken up the cause. Next step the national papers and TV. I will either win or end up in the Tower. So if I suddenly disappear I can be contacted at jambutty@penthousecell.bloodytower.org.uk

Don’t worry Doommister, kyteflyer will be with us for ages yet, just keeping her wallet/purse tightly closed.

It is well known peterg that most if not all HYIP’s and ROI surfers invest in each other. One fails and the domino effect kicks in. We’ve seen it happen time and time again. So no doubt many have loads of money in FXIG and if they can’t get their money they can’t pay us.

Gintoh

Hey, jambutty. Are you saying you won't be hanging out here at GT anymore?



Say that isn't so, or I'll start a petition-signing campaign to bring you back!

jambutty

Thanks for that Gintoh but I will still be hanging out in here as much as normal.

I’m just not going to be tempted to join anything for the time being. No matter how good it may seem.